• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    as I understand it does not hide negatively voted comments. these are stats, for to moderators, for helping moderation decisions. It’s not automatic.

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      5 hours ago

      It’s the concept that it is good to moderate these spaces like that that bothers. As a human I need to be challenged and that includes dealing with perceptibly negative commentary from people. Not just some whitewashed version of some propagandized online personas masquerading as the the “best” of human beings.

      Like IRL, any truly gratifying social function includes the possibility of heated debate and some real feelings exchanged, real things happening outside your comfort zone, not politeness theater that reassures us we are the betters in this society. And that’s all to common thinking nowadays, that were agreeable and that’s the best thing you can be like thats what polite type dicks/assholes are. And there’s a reason you turn to online spaces to validate yourselves. Because people dont actually like you enough. And you want to get social stuff done here. Likely you just exchange prefab thinking. And they want to moderate Piefed to keep it whitewashed and that’s insulting to human intelligence and experience IMO

      Its not your dinner party just because its your server. And if that’s why you made it. Then I think that’s petty, self-masturbatory and generally uncool shit instead the awesome federated space filled with reasonably unfiltered ideas that it was supposed to have been/could have been.

      Semi moderated spaces. Unless its really bad don’t worry about it type deal. Learn to ignore, filter and move on. Just like real life. Ive reported like 3 posts total and I’ve had death threats levied and some insane people saying some intentionally horrible shit. OK, oh well, learned something from it, got stronger, moved forward a better more capable person. Part of life. Its not going away because you removed it from the forum. I feel like unless its really bad. It should be witnessed. Someone got hurt by that? How much? Really? Or is that just playing into some newfound posturing contest? Because that creates a new power structure, to be hurt tactically to invalidate or validate the discussion accordingly and its abused. Overprotection comes with serious downsides, it feels like people here dont understand this concept. You will NEVER be able to handle it by hiding away.

      So I appreciate the clarity but I still don’t approve of the sentiment and frankly neither should you. It alienates like 80 percent of the world and all the contributions negative and inflammatory people can make (which is plenty, truly)

      Ive needed people to hammer into me, call me on my bullshit, and not elate just cause its perceptually harmful to my wellbeing. That’s the point. It hurt. I have to adjust or accept being a plaything for those that will do that for whatever reason. And that’s no way to conduct yourself. And many others will need that to grow and overcome things (trauma bullshit, groupthink bs, propaganda bs et al.)

      I understand wanting to make safe space for people to be in but GYATT DAMN were past the point of that being good when you start talking about making some voices (negative ones, less visible by DESIGN)

      People need to be able to make social mistakes and/or be assholes and get called on it and to leave it up as an example not delete it and def not hide it away. Also its helpful if people can learn to see things like that and toughen up a bit so that the world doesn’t hurt us as much. Negative people are part of the world and have plenty to say btw. I LOVE to see those kinds of comments so this is bullshit from that POV. You can jerk off each other as much as you want but thats still gonna be true.

      Guess its time to plan out a proper server and compete at that level. Cause this circlejerking shit is just a bit too much like Reddit. And I have the technical skill just don’t want to have to put in that level of effort I guess.

      Sort of sorry for the essay here. Sort of not. Obviously felt it was necessary. Not all positivity is good positivity. And I think negative people and down voters should be equal on their own merits (tho with moderating decisions it might be considered it should be comment and context aware not to label them as a “bad person” so your not allowed here type groupthinking) Each comment moderated equally on its merits. Always and forever. (unless specifically necessary due to some incredibly remarkable circumstance and even then be SUPER careful

      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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        7 hours ago

        yes but these stats highlight those that are only participating or creating heated debates. users that are consistently downvoted, but also users who are giving lots of downvotes