Too late for that I’m afraid. It already happened. It just takes a while before the [citation needed] folks understand that past performance is not a guarantee for future success.
Lol sure, any time now, just one more year bro, just one more year and it will collapse bro, promise.
Maybe the usa will collapse a bit (because those people are often americans that don’t know there are other countries out there) but that’s another story.
I highly recommend staying ignorant honestly. It’s a much lighter burden to carry than seeing all the datapoints and seeing the collapse as a certainty. Have a good life, seriously.
if you want to be treated seriously maybe provide some proof instead of saying that you’re attuned to all datapoints and can therefore see the future lol
I don’t want to be treated seriously on this platform about that subject.
If you’re curious you can find it but it won’t be thrown in your lap, as people would simply stop working/paying taxes or have children or fight the elites wars for them if the collapse data becomes widespread knowledge.
But as I said, there is nothing serious about this, and the best advice I can give is to simply enjoy life and appreciate precious moments with loved ones.
I don’t want to be treated seriously on this platform about that subject.
Mission accomplished. You sound you’re talking through a tinfoil hat.
We ask explicitly for information because we want to know. We want enlightenment because we’re not content with just living our lives in ignorance until the suffering starts, we want to be as prepared as we can for it. We have many years ahead of us. And you’re purposefully withholding information because you “don’t want to be taken seriously”? “On this platform”? For what?
If you have this information, just provide it. Let us be the judge of what we want with our lives.
What, you’re withholding it because you don’t have much time left in life and you just want to live calmly the rest of your days while we are slaving away for capitalism so it won’t collapse during your lifetime? That would be very selfish.
I don’t want to have a conversation about this, but if you study a little bit of (ancient) history, sociobiology, look at when our currencies became decoupled from gold standards, then take in the climate data, and our real economic data (not quarter returns of silicon valley, but real metric tons of food produced, how that supply chain works and how it is already being affected by climate change), then figure out where you are on the food order list, and how close you are to sea level.
People in Sudan are already experiencing what will come to most of Europe in the next 1 maybe 2 decades. There is so much more to this, but you need a serious stomach to digest it all. I went through it once, and I wouldn’t recommend it, hence my reluctance to share or encourage people to go on this journey.
The most important part is: we really don’t understand much of how complex the myriad of systems that are keeping us at this very nice level of living way above our means. But we do know everything is connected, and through Earth System Science we know that the collapse of a few pillars will cascade into other areas.
Just writing it I can sense how you will push back that that’s not specific enough, and that’s fair, but the full picture took me many years, and I couldn’t point to a single piece of literature or data for you. If you want to know, you’ll find it.
Also be mindful that this isn’t just a knowledge change, but a change to your belief system as well.
But somewhere I think you do know or you wouldn’t respond like that.
We have never in the recorded history of this planet have had an economy that is so vastly disconnected from the resource reality below it. We have never had so much poverty, poor education, healthcare for the lower classes against such an over the top wealth for the few billionaires. We have never been with this many mouths to feed. Most of us are now living in a world with 2 to 3 times as many people than when we were born. Housing and healthy food production did not scale at the same level. There are now more armed conflicts happening simultaneously than ever before. While that is all going on, the climate and our environment are basically done.
CO2: 427.49 ppm (Dec 2025); May 2025 peak 430.5 ppm — first time exceeding 430 ppm. Rate: +3.75 ppm/yr, ACCELERATING (+0.160 ppm/yr²)
Temperature: +1.34°C (2025, 3rd warmest). Three-year avg 2023-2025 exceeds 1.5°C for the first time
Carbon budget (1.5°C): ~170 Gt CO2 remaining (~4 years at current rate). Effective budget tighter due to overestimated CO2 fertilisation
Planetary boundaries: 7 of 9 transgressed — ocean acidification confirmed as 7th (Planetary Health Check 2025)
First tipping point crossed: Warm-water coral reefs at 1.4°C (irreversible)
Ocean heat: 23 ZJ absorbed in 2025 (record, 9th consecutive)
Fossil emissions: 38.1 GtCO2 in 2025 (new record, +1.1%)
WAIS collapse precursor detected — all model ensembles show Thwaites/Pine Island collapse
Methane: 1940.59 ppb (Sep 2025) — decelerating from post-2020 surge
I want to believe in positive human collaboration. But absent a miracle and aliens landing with tech far beyond our reach or understanding, these changes are locked in. If we locked down the entire planet and froze the economy tomorrow, these metrics would not change by much.
Most people on this platform will not grow as old as their parents are today.
Enjoy your life, this amazing planet with so many wonders and beautiful people. Create close knit small communities. If you survive, it will be back to basics. Assuming you live in US/Europe, you might have another 10-20 years of relatively good life, though that might be optimistic.
It’s about to. The very nature of it, means you can only have a sample size of one.
And when do you predict this will occur? When should I have built my nuclear shelter so I know when to start building it?
Too late for that I’m afraid. It already happened. It just takes a while before the [citation needed] folks understand that past performance is not a guarantee for future success.
Lol sure, any time now, just one more year bro, just one more year and it will collapse bro, promise.
Maybe the usa will collapse a bit (because those people are often americans that don’t know there are other countries out there) but that’s another story.
I highly recommend staying ignorant honestly. It’s a much lighter burden to carry than seeing all the datapoints and seeing the collapse as a certainty. Have a good life, seriously.
if you want to be treated seriously maybe provide some proof instead of saying that you’re attuned to all datapoints and can therefore see the future lol
I’m putting all my money in tulips.
I don’t want to be treated seriously on this platform about that subject.
If you’re curious you can find it but it won’t be thrown in your lap, as people would simply stop working/paying taxes or have children or fight the elites wars for them if the collapse data becomes widespread knowledge.
But as I said, there is nothing serious about this, and the best advice I can give is to simply enjoy life and appreciate precious moments with loved ones.
Mission accomplished. You sound you’re talking through a tinfoil hat.
We ask explicitly for information because we want to know. We want enlightenment because we’re not content with just living our lives in ignorance until the suffering starts, we want to be as prepared as we can for it. We have many years ahead of us. And you’re purposefully withholding information because you “don’t want to be taken seriously”? “On this platform”? For what?
If you have this information, just provide it. Let us be the judge of what we want with our lives.
What, you’re withholding it because you don’t have much time left in life and you just want to live calmly the rest of your days while we are slaving away for capitalism so it won’t collapse during your lifetime? That would be very selfish.
Please make sense of this. Thanks.
Well you asked kindly.
I don’t want to have a conversation about this, but if you study a little bit of (ancient) history, sociobiology, look at when our currencies became decoupled from gold standards, then take in the climate data, and our real economic data (not quarter returns of silicon valley, but real metric tons of food produced, how that supply chain works and how it is already being affected by climate change), then figure out where you are on the food order list, and how close you are to sea level. People in Sudan are already experiencing what will come to most of Europe in the next 1 maybe 2 decades. There is so much more to this, but you need a serious stomach to digest it all. I went through it once, and I wouldn’t recommend it, hence my reluctance to share or encourage people to go on this journey.
The most important part is: we really don’t understand much of how complex the myriad of systems that are keeping us at this very nice level of living way above our means. But we do know everything is connected, and through Earth System Science we know that the collapse of a few pillars will cascade into other areas.
Just writing it I can sense how you will push back that that’s not specific enough, and that’s fair, but the full picture took me many years, and I couldn’t point to a single piece of literature or data for you. If you want to know, you’ll find it.
Also be mindful that this isn’t just a knowledge change, but a change to your belief system as well.
But somewhere I think you do know or you wouldn’t respond like that.
We have never in the recorded history of this planet have had an economy that is so vastly disconnected from the resource reality below it. We have never had so much poverty, poor education, healthcare for the lower classes against such an over the top wealth for the few billionaires. We have never been with this many mouths to feed. Most of us are now living in a world with 2 to 3 times as many people than when we were born. Housing and healthy food production did not scale at the same level. There are now more armed conflicts happening simultaneously than ever before. While that is all going on, the climate and our environment are basically done.
I want to believe in positive human collaboration. But absent a miracle and aliens landing with tech far beyond our reach or understanding, these changes are locked in. If we locked down the entire planet and froze the economy tomorrow, these metrics would not change by much.
Most people on this platform will not grow as old as their parents are today.
Enjoy your life, this amazing planet with so many wonders and beautiful people. Create close knit small communities. If you survive, it will be back to basics. Assuming you live in US/Europe, you might have another 10-20 years of relatively good life, though that might be optimistic.
dubious method but correct conclusion, i’d give you half a point
It doesn’t seem to work for you?