Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728
Ahoy mateys!
A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.
But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …
More context
Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.
As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …
Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.
In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.
Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated
i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it
How would you categorize the feddit.org admin using a snark comm to get people to send DM harrassment to users who upvoted the feddit.org defederation thread?
is that ‘being nice’?
I followed your link. It shows a comment you made, yet with another link to a comment by [email protected]. And you claim that they harass people. The comment by Emopunker shows a screenshot where three usernames are listed that share similarities. Emopunker says that they have the suspicion that the shown users are the same person with alt accounts.
In conclusion: I wonder whether you forgot to attach some context, because based on this alone I don’t see anything that support your claims.
In the thread I linked the thread op and several others were complaining about DM harrassment.
That was happening immidiately after emopunker decided to post the names of three upvoters of the defederation thread in meanwhileongrad, while the vote was still happening.
It’s a pretty straightforward chain of events, if you’re insisting on seeing nothing I think the problem is between your keyboard and your chair
Basing this on a temporal chain of events alone is weak. I’ll give you, that there might be a connection: names listed -> harassment started.
That does not mean that Emopunker is responsible though. Could have been another user. Could have been you for all I know. Could also have happened for other reasons. And, there is still the possibility that it might have no connection to this at all.
You’ll need to provide some stronger evidence, otherwise I’ll take this as baseless accusations and, possibly, a defamation attempt.
Feel free to deliver, especially since you seem to be observing this. I’d like to know whether an admin on the instance I am using is harassing people.
They posted to the snark comm, the harassment follows. Just because there’s no proof they were personally sending the messages doesn’t absolve them of responsibility for their actions.
if anything the defamation was coming from emopunker, declaring people upvoting the thread about their instance being zionist as ‘the same person’ to a snark comm was pretty clearly implying a call to action for someone
Why the whataboutism? Please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.
you started the whataboutism with 'what about the community rules"
please answer my question and do not answer with whataboutism or the discussion is over.
Wrong. I criticised the db0-governance post for delivering supposed evidence for feddit.org-admins’ supposed zionism that actually only were evidence for db0-users behaving like assholes.
And since you can only deflect and not actually argue, this discussion is over. In case you wonder why I won’t answer furher comments by you, I can’t see them anymore since I place you on my blocklist. People like you are the reason I’m really considering placing lemmy.ml as an instance on that list. Well done.
Bye, your contributions to the conversation won’t be missed
Oooh, they downvoted you with both of their accounts.
That’s just called “being nice”, tankie.
Go back to reddit
I want to clarify that I was being extremely sarcastic in that comment. I was mocking the anti-“tankie” user for saying “follow the rules and be nice” but doing “downvote people with your alt account”.
People like them have nothing to offer but deflection and whataboutisms. Blocking them allows the propaganda to spread and influence others uncontested. Best method is to downvote their posts but don’t engage with them, they feed off of the attention they get.
Na, I don’t have a lot of spoons for this anymore. I don’t want to read that, because I’m a little impulsive sometimes and have a hard time not to engage, and I need the energy for people I may actually convince. Not just in political questions, just generally. There are more important things than infighting on the internet.