Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. …

More context

Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. …

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

  • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
    3411·
    1 day ago

    I thought .ml were disgusting authoritarian tankies, now also anarchists are tankies? Almost as if it was a left-punching slur all along :o

    • da_cow (she/her)@feddit.orgEnglish
      1523·
      1 day ago

      I meant the inability between distinguishing moderating hate speech and supporting genocide.

      Lemmy.ml definitely has its problem with nuanced positions.

      • agentant (He/Him)@lemmy.mlEnglish
        112·
        16 hours ago

        Yes, we should be moderating hate speech and opposing genocide. The hate speech and genocide direct at the Palestinian people by the Israeli Settler Colony.

        • da_cow (she/her)@feddit.orgEnglish
          66·
          15 hours ago

          And all of that is 100% possible without having any conflicts with the existing rules. If you cant voice your opinion without direct hate speech that sounds pretty much like a you problem.

          • agentant (He/Him)@lemmy.mlEnglish
            83·
            14 hours ago

            Which anti-zionists are saying what hate speech? The hate speech is principly coming from zionists who call Palestinians terrorists and call for their genocide.

            • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlEnglish
              7·
              13 hours ago

              Few ever explicitly call for Palestinian genocide in mixed company. Instead they hasbara. And most Zionists in the fediverse are liberal Zionists who don’t want to see a genocide, but somehow still haven’t come to terms with reality after almost a year and a half of genocide.

              • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                31·
                9 hours ago

                And most Zionists in the fediverse are liberal Zionists who don’t want to see a genocide

                The alternative interpretation of this sentence, that they don’t want to see a genocide but they don’t mind if it happens where they don’t see it, is also true.

      • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
        172·
        20 hours ago

        There is no nuance in settler colonialism and supermasist ideologies