• vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 day ago

    Everyone making stuff wants arbitrary power application, so it happens. That’s how the world works.

    Also people without wisdom are sometimes still very intelligent. In nature viruses that kill everything don’t survive because they kill everything. In human societies a huge part of those intelligent enough want to kill everything they don’t like. Or to kill all their enemies they can. They don’t think what happens next, where the emptiness is filled by something they haven’t evolved their tactics for. Something less predictable than what they are fighting now.

    I’m thinking of Israelis right now, but it happens everywhere, the general consensus becoming that you should kill all you can of what you don’t like.

    I mean, were they intelligent they’d understand this, it would seem, and at the same time there’s an unexpected direction from which disagreement comes - Tolkien’s thing in the ending of LOTR where Gandalf says about future generations having different weeds to root out from their fields, and that not being the responsibility of the current generation. So i don’t know.

    Perhaps everyone is becoming wiser and I’m a fool.

    Anyway. The Nazi model of society, which is most similar to this, has failed. Not because of a war lost, as it was spreading to many other countries and wasn’t really abruptly removed from Germany after that war. Simply because it became inefficient. It was phased out, slowly replaced. I think that’s what will happen here too. But that might be another 20-30-40 years, so we are going to live in a not very nice world.

    About Israel - perhaps in such a world I’ll move there. I don’t like the general worldview of people living there, it’s really fascist, but in a miserable way, I’d prefer something like the atmosphere in Foucault’s Pendulum by Eco if we have to do fascism. I don’t like that most Israelis I’ve met perceive civilized discussion as an insult. But if I’m going to have children some day, they’d rather be among “their own tribe” by those rules which are coming to prevalence everywhere.