• village604@adultswim.fan
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    9 hours ago

    Eh, there are definitely pedophiles who will never touch a child or consume CSAM. People who have an attraction to children should be allowed to seek help without fear of being killed.

    A decent chunk of sex crimes are motivated by exerting power over the weak, rather than sexual attraction.

    But the second they harm a child or consume CSAM, execution is warranted.

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      9 hours ago

      Sorry I was responding to “Ilhan Omar calls to execute president Trump”.

      People who seek help and don’t abuse anyone are ok.

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      9 hours ago

      If I’m being absolutely fair, I can also see how, if a pedophile knows that they are caught being a pedophile that the death penalty is assured, then there is the chance that they will simply kill their victims because there is a chance that they will simply get life in prison instead of being executed for their crimes.

      Maybe as an alternative, the person who commits pedophilia loses everything they own to their victim. Trump would no longer be a billionaire, he would be a poor schmuck that used to have a TV show that literal tens of millions of Americans despise to their very soul.

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        9 hours ago

        Pedophilia isn’t a verb, though. My point was that there is a difference between someone attracted to children and a child rapist (even though it makes me feel gross to make the point). Being attracted to children doesn’t mean you’ll ever act on that attraction.

        Without them harming children or consuming material whose production harmed children, punishing them is basically punishing thought crime. I think everyone who wants to get help so they never do it should be able to.

        But I do agree that the death penalty could have the effect you described. I love your solution.

    • Would be nice if there was term that lumped in those who sexually abuse minors directly (regardless of the person’s attractions) and those who consume CSAM that wasn’t simultaneously the term to describe the sexual or romantic attraction to children. But any attempt at trying to separate the two frequently seems to be portrayed as somehow defending those who abuse children or some similar baseless accusation.

      Still agree with the intended message of Ilhan (although perhaps execution is perhaps to forgiving to those involved with Epstein).

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        7 hours ago

        Yeah. Both are disgusting, but they aren’t the same thing. I don’t know if I’m convinced the nuance is worth muddying the waters though.