• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    The chicken itself is probably fine.

    Duck a’laronge is fine. The acidic drink might even have worked as a marinade. We have coq au vin as well.

    One time I made chicken with pears and pear cider. It worked well.

    I think this dish is better than it’s made out to be.

    Fuck that rice though

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      I think this dish is better than it’s made out to be.

      It’s made with ~11 cubes of sugar for a single portion. She just made awful rice with candy.

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        It’s made with ~11 cubes of sugar for a single portion.

        You won’t belive how much sugar is in fruit

        https://health.clevelandclinic.org/fruits-high-in-sugar

        Grams of sugar in one large orange: 17.2.

        The internet says one sugar cube is 4 grams. Let’s be kind to me and round down the cubes of sugar to 10 and round up the sugar in the orange to 20.

        Basically, if you made duck a la orange with 2 oranges, you’d be using the same amount of sugar.

        It’s not that divorced from the reality of the situation expected in kitchens.

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            Fruit is healthy in moderation because of all the fiber. Soda also contains primarily fructose.

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                Soda contains primarily fructose as a sugar, either because they put the fructose in when they made it via high fructose corn syrup or because the sucrose (from cane sugar) is broken down into fructose + glucose by the acid in the soda. It is not the type of sugar that makes fruit healthier than soda. Rather, it’s the other stuff in fruit. When it comes to glycemic index (how quickly the food raises your blood sugar) fiber is the hero, because it slows the absorption of the sugar by your gut, which means fruit doesn’t spike your blood sugar nearly as quickly as sugared soda. Fruit juice (which is basically fruit minus fiber) has a shockingly similar glycemic index to Coca-Cola.

                Sorry for all the parentheticals. I am not a very good writer.

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                  There’s a difference between the fructose in fruit and stuff like high fructose corn syrup. Fructose is healthy in certain doses, like when eating fruit. When eating more than the amount found naturally in fruit it becomes unhealthy.

                  When you make fruit juice, you don’t juice one piece of fruit but a number of them. This way the sugar concentration becomes higher, which can be of the level of coca cola of you use enough fruit.

                  But in soda usually HFCS is used and sometimes sucrose. But HFCS is also a mixture of fructose and sucrose.

                  There’s a difference between eating 4 apples and drinking juice/soda with sugar content similar to 20 apples, but refined sugars instead.

                  Also the sugar molecules found in fruit are not the same as the ones in corn or pure refined fructose. One is better than the other.

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                    What is the difference between the fructose in an orange and the fructose in HFCS? Like if I presented you with two molecules of fructose, how would you tell which came from an orange and which came from coke? It seems to me like you are repeating my point back to me, which is that it is the vehicle through which the fructose is introduced to the body that makes a difference, rather than one sugar being fundamentally different from the other.

                    Why would the concentration increase if I juice two apples instead of one? The quantity of juice produced would surely increase, but why would the concentration without further processing?

                    Sucrose is unstable in the environment of a soda can. It breaks down into fructose and glucose. Depending on the amount of time the soda has been canned it might contain zero sucrose.