If there is an established pattern of malice, it is stupidity to attribute it to stupidity.
corollaries to Hanlon’s razor include:
This is a better way of saying what I tried to say in my own comment
I utterly loathe Hanlon’s razor. It’s peak naivete, especially when it’s applied to groups of people that have ulterior motives - like business interests. It essentially gives companies a carte blanche to do evil shit, and when they get caught, all they have to do is blush and say “oops, how could that have possibly happened???!” But in reality, they were just doing some sort of self-serving behavior and hoping they could get away with it. And of course, they’ll just end up doing it again a few months or years later on when the attention has died away.
Moral of the story: Hanlon’s razor does not apply to corporations or other business interests. If it’s your neighbors, well maybe give them the benefit of the doubt. If it’s a multinational conglomerate, hell no, fuck that. Assume guilt 100% of the time.
I think you’re underestimating the heavy lifting being done by “adequately”. Does stupidity adequately explain a corporation doing evil shit that made them a bunch of money? Absolutely not.
I consider the whole set of razors to be pseudologic. Just because something helps pick a conclusion regardless of context doesn’t mean it helps pick the correct conclusion.
I also don’t get why they seem to be popular with people who like to act scientific, because they seem very unscientific to me.
But yeah, hanlon’s is specifically stupid and I suspect it was popularized precisely because it advocates a default level of reasonable doubt for malicious people to hide in.
I also don’t get why they seem to be popular with people who like to act scientific, because they seem very unscientific to me.
They absolutely are. And it’s very aggravating to see people immediately invoking it without a second thought. They just assume it to be some absolute universal truth that should be accepted without question. But why?? How is that any different from religion at that point?
Use the first version with personal relationships. Dont let paranoia ruin your social circle.
With politics, assume the worst.
If they were that stupid eventually something would go right for us and against billionaires and yet it never does. If someone really believes they’re all stupid but all their mistakes happen to benefit the exact same group of people who pay them, then idk what to tell them.
Ah, yes. The Nolnah’s Razor.
Nolnah knew
Please lord forgive them not, for they know what they are doing
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice
The more social status some has the more it becomes the second one in my mind
or smth else nut there is some distinct differenece in my mind
It’s usually a mixture of both. A lot of malicious people are also very stupid.
Not really they’re always motivated by self-interest and corruption. For example when Nick Shirley makes an obviously fake documentary about “fraud in Minnesota” he’s not just “doing it because he’s dumb”. He’s doing it because he’s receiving massive amounts of money to demonize that population.
No no, it can stay stupidity. But hammer home that its not an improvement
