Would protestors be safer? Thousands of masked people with guns. Chaos?
I can’t help but think that the only solution to ICE is a “well regulated militia” in combination with political reform, with both being necessary.
Would protestors be safer? Thousands of masked people with guns. Chaos?
I can’t help but think that the only solution to ICE is a “well regulated militia” in combination with political reform, with both being necessary.
My guess is: ICE shoots first (either because of their regular activities or trying to incite a larger riot), the protesters shoot at them, the media shows it as a national tragedy between a rebellious, anti-American group of traitors and the honorable Burger brownshirts and the prez drops the military there and in nearby areas, imposes curfews, etc etc and further restrictions on freedom that, if they trigger a larger conflict, the people would never win because they’d be fighting the American empire’s forces. If it happens, other cities would lower their heads, and America would continue its path into a slave base country. Maybe?
I think the US has been great at spreading the “we are so invincibly powerful” narrative, but, how would that actually work? Do you see the US military carpet-bombing their own cities? A nuke here and there?
Soldiers, in the end, are people. No matter how MAGA they can be, I bet most would think twice about bombing their own country and countrymen.
I mean, there was WACO, but hopefully you’re right and I’m just too used to these old narratives and exaggerating whatever inhumanity some Americans might have.
I do think there’d be more than a few mutinies and refusals to follow orders all across the board. Perhaps even to the level of the president trying to nationalize (for instance) the Minnesota National Guard, and their commander responding with a hearty “fuck you, eat shit”.
Most times the US military has gone up against the general population of a society, the US military has lost.
Soldiers would never be able to feel safe again, there is no safe home to return to. Even off duty, what if someone knows?
Then let’s hope that from a post civil war America something good can still grow, then. 👍
Odds of getting a democratic regime out of a civil war are usually fairly low. The guys with the guns normally do not like to give away their power.
Look at our world right now. How many democracies vs. authoritarian regimes do you count? Then, look at the world at any other point of history outside of the last 100 years.
Democracy is a very unique and rare form of government. I would not gamble on a civil war achieving the outcome you would prefer even if the “good guys” win.
This is my big hope. That this fall is so deep that it is burned into our DNA. That a more humane species of mankind emerges from the ashes.
Forlorn hope I’m afraid.
Have you read God Emperor of Dune? 😁
Why yes I have!