I fail to see how the blocking tool working how it does on Piefed has any relevance to Rimu’s grievances with lemmy or hexbear. It’s a relatively common way many blocking systems behave.
Rimu doesn’t like that communist views are common here, and is developing a platform where it’s easier to shut out those views. Part of that involves baking the censorship in as defaults for any unsuspecting new instance admin. When a feature on PieFed is made to shut out speech in a way Lemmy does not, it needs to be analyzed from that context, not in a vacuum.
I don’t think we are going to see eye to eye on this, if I am saying we need to look at everything within its context and you’re arguing that we need to judge it individually. My broader point isn’t even about the blocking bit, but about how it’s easier to make an echo chamber on PieFed, and that that’s by design.
Rimu doesn’t like that communist views are common here, and is developing a platform where it’s easier to shut out those views.
It’s also easier to “shut out” capitalist views by the same blocking tools.
Part of that involves baking the censorship in as defaults for any unsuspecting new instance admin. When a feature on PieFed is made to shut out speech in a way Lemmy does not, it needs to be analyzed from that context, not in a vacuum…
Okay, but that’s not relevant specifically to the blocking dispute. Piefed does a lot of things different way beyond that and way beyond the interpretation of blocking. I also feel like I’ve interacted with Rimu a lot more than you, by the way.
Rimu isn’t developing tools to shut out capitalists because Rimu doesn’t have a problem with capitalists. I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. You probably have interacted with Rimu more than me, I’ve seen enough to build my conclusion that it’s easier to censor on PieFed and the motive behind these differences is largely ideological.
Rimu isn’t developing tools to shut out capitalists because Rimu doesn’t have a problem with capitalists.
The blocking tool no more shuts out communists than it does capitalists.
I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator
This is just baseless conjecture. You have no idea why Rimu implemented that tool like that.
You probably have interacted with Rimu more than me, I’ve seen enough to build my conclusion that it’s easier to censor on PieFed and the motive behind these differences is largely ideological.
It’s baseless prejudiced conjecture when it comes to the blocking tools. It may surprise you to know that most functions on Piefed aren’t designed with the specific idea of sticking it to communists.
I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I don’t believe it’s a stretch to say that the way Rimu is developing PieFed is specifically to counter problems they have with Lemmy, including the large amount of communists.
I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator
This simply does not follow when we’re talking about “views of the creator”. Keep insisting this and I’ll say it right back.
that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad.
You could absolutely make that claim regarding Hexbear and Lemmygrad being defederated by default on new Piefed instances, but you cannot extend this claim to anything else on the software. That it has more tools for instance admins and a different blocking philosophy has nothing to do with this.
I don’t believe it’s a stretch to say that the way Rimu is developing PieFed is specifically to counter problems they have with Lemmy, including the large amount of communists.
You know it’s possible to have issues with Lemmy as software beyond just opposing the worldview of the owners, right?
Moreover, it’s also possible that Rimu just wanted to make his own regardless of Lemmy, right?
I don’t think you can judge individual aspects of a broader project and pretend they are entirely distinct and unrelated.
I fail to see how the blocking tool working how it does on Piefed has any relevance to Rimu’s grievances with lemmy or hexbear. It’s a relatively common way many blocking systems behave.
Rimu doesn’t like that communist views are common here, and is developing a platform where it’s easier to shut out those views. Part of that involves baking the censorship in as defaults for any unsuspecting new instance admin. When a feature on PieFed is made to shut out speech in a way Lemmy does not, it needs to be analyzed from that context, not in a vacuum.
I don’t think we are going to see eye to eye on this, if I am saying we need to look at everything within its context and you’re arguing that we need to judge it individually. My broader point isn’t even about the blocking bit, but about how it’s easier to make an echo chamber on PieFed, and that that’s by design.
It’s also easier to “shut out” capitalist views by the same blocking tools.
Okay, but that’s not relevant specifically to the blocking dispute. Piefed does a lot of things different way beyond that and way beyond the interpretation of blocking. I also feel like I’ve interacted with Rimu a lot more than you, by the way.
Just saying.
Rimu isn’t developing tools to shut out capitalists because Rimu doesn’t have a problem with capitalists. I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. You probably have interacted with Rimu more than me, I’ve seen enough to build my conclusion that it’s easier to censor on PieFed and the motive behind these differences is largely ideological.
Would also say anyone who goes to meanwhile on grad and has positive interactions with the users there is entirely sus
https://lemmy.world/post/35086986/19071974
Yep, it’s funny seeing db0 complain about people taking things out of context when that’s all MoG does.
Even people in this thread doing exactly that in response to being shown the thing they moved to is just as censoring just in ways they like.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/23385220
Yep, they should just admit that they are moving to a place that better reflects their views, not that it censors less.
The blocking tool no more shuts out communists than it does capitalists.
This is just baseless conjecture. You have no idea why Rimu implemented that tool like that.
It’s baseless prejudiced conjecture when it comes to the blocking tools. It may surprise you to know that most functions on Piefed aren’t designed with the specific idea of sticking it to communists.
I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I don’t believe it’s a stretch to say that the way Rimu is developing PieFed is specifically to counter problems they have with Lemmy, including the large amount of communists.
This simply does not follow when we’re talking about “views of the creator”. Keep insisting this and I’ll say it right back.
You could absolutely make that claim regarding Hexbear and Lemmygrad being defederated by default on new Piefed instances, but you cannot extend this claim to anything else on the software. That it has more tools for instance admins and a different blocking philosophy has nothing to do with this.
You know it’s possible to have issues with Lemmy as software beyond just opposing the worldview of the owners, right?
Moreover, it’s also possible that Rimu just wanted to make his own regardless of Lemmy, right?
I don’t think you can judge individual aspects of a broader project and pretend they are entirely distinct and unrelated.