one of the most retroactively embarrassing moments in my life is in like 2015 or '16 I was doing some dumb team-building thing for some school-adjacent activity, and the task was to create a “new Mount Rushmore,” basically as a group nominate four people who are doing good and important work in the world. I suggested musk. at the time most people there hadn’t heard of him, so I gave a little spiel about how he was the “founder” (which I thought was true at the time) of PayPal, Tesla (which people were just becoming aware of), and SpaceX. every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does. although most other people in the group suggested Beyonce as someone doing “important work for humanity” so idk if they have much of a leg to stand on to criticize my choice
It’s fine. He had potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don’t think EVs would be where they are today without him.
The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn’t even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.
He ditched his handlers and PR team. He never had potential. He had a team covering up what a meddling moronic piece of shit he is. Thing is, he’s also a fat piggy bank.
His money had gotten things done because smarter people around him have been able to use it to advance tech from time to time, but he always takes credit in some way.
He has done nothing but throw around his daddy’s money.
I really appreciated him around that same era, as he seemed to be the only rich person actually showing any real care or action to try to do something about climate change. Up until him every rich person and every politician seemed to be actively dismissing climate change as a concern. It feels like around 10 years ago was when political discourse finally stopped trying to argue whether or not climate change is real and instead shifted to trying to argue that any actions to prevent climate change were unrealistic or futile
Remember, Musk was building up an electric car company, a home battery company and a solar roofing company through the 2010s. Plus he was pushing for cool space stuff. We were going to have a colony on mars by 2020! Incredible!
It was the whole hyperloop thing that killed it for me. It quickly became apparent as his Las Vegas “hyperloop” was just Teslas in a tunnel that he was full of shit and it put his other lies and half-truths into perspective. Honestly his antics over the last couple of years have killed my interest in space flight. I fucking loved watching rocket launch live streams. I stayed up until 2am to watch the Artemis launch. And now I just can’t bring myself to get excited.
I appreciate that he brought Tesla to profitability and Tesla proved to other automakers and consumers that electric cars are viable and cool. I appreciate that SpaceX has completely changed the rocket industry for the better and now every rocket program worth it’s salt in the world is trying to replicate the Falcon 9 rocket boosters. But that’s all I’ll give him. He didn’t do the work, he just funded it, and I appreciate that he did fund it when nobody else would but that’s it.
every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does.
Haha you wish!
A lot of peole are thinking back to that enthusiastic spiel as the first time they heard of Musk. Then they say something like “man, I had no idea at the time that u/arctanthrope was an alt-right lunatic, seemed so normal”.
one of the vocally pro-nazi people I still have on Facebook did a paper at university on “Elon Musk: a case for transformational leadership” and has that posted on his company website. he also has clippy as his fb pp, and his profile tag line or whatever has “I am devoted to the well being of the people”
it’s an interesting mix of beliefs
mind you this guy is Canadian. he’s gradually been becoming more and more right-wing because he has been radicalized by his view of the left through mainstream media. however when it became clear that he was pro-Nazi was when he posted about how the people who were calling Nazis Nazis have blood on their hand for Good’s murder and that it was entirely clear it was justified self-defense
one of the most retroactively embarrassing moments in my life is in like 2015 or '16 I was doing some dumb team-building thing for some school-adjacent activity, and the task was to create a “new Mount Rushmore,” basically as a group nominate four people who are doing good and important work in the world. I suggested musk. at the time most people there hadn’t heard of him, so I gave a little spiel about how he was the “founder” (which I thought was true at the time) of PayPal, Tesla (which people were just becoming aware of), and SpaceX. every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does. although most other people in the group suggested Beyonce as someone doing “important work for humanity” so idk if they have much of a leg to stand on to criticize my choice
It’s fine. He had potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don’t think EVs would be where they are today without him.
The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn’t even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.
He ditched his handlers and PR team. He never had potential. He had a team covering up what a meddling moronic piece of shit he is. Thing is, he’s also a fat piggy bank.
His money had gotten things done because smarter people around him have been able to use it to advance tech from time to time, but he always takes credit in some way.
He has done nothing but throw around his daddy’s money.
That’s it.
Period.
He didn’t “become shitty”.
He threw away the people covering it up.
I really appreciated him around that same era, as he seemed to be the only rich person actually showing any real care or action to try to do something about climate change. Up until him every rich person and every politician seemed to be actively dismissing climate change as a concern. It feels like around 10 years ago was when political discourse finally stopped trying to argue whether or not climate change is real and instead shifted to trying to argue that any actions to prevent climate change were unrealistic or futile
Remember, Musk was building up an electric car company, a home battery company and a solar roofing company through the 2010s. Plus he was pushing for cool space stuff. We were going to have a colony on mars by 2020! Incredible!
It was the whole hyperloop thing that killed it for me. It quickly became apparent as his Las Vegas “hyperloop” was just Teslas in a tunnel that he was full of shit and it put his other lies and half-truths into perspective. Honestly his antics over the last couple of years have killed my interest in space flight. I fucking loved watching rocket launch live streams. I stayed up until 2am to watch the Artemis launch. And now I just can’t bring myself to get excited.
I appreciate that he brought Tesla to profitability and Tesla proved to other automakers and consumers that electric cars are viable and cool. I appreciate that SpaceX has completely changed the rocket industry for the better and now every rocket program worth it’s salt in the world is trying to replicate the Falcon 9 rocket boosters. But that’s all I’ll give him. He didn’t do the work, he just funded it, and I appreciate that he did fund it when nobody else would but that’s it.
Haha you wish!
A lot of peole are thinking back to that enthusiastic spiel as the first time they heard of Musk. Then they say something like “man, I had no idea at the time that u/arctanthrope was an alt-right lunatic, seemed so normal”.
(Just kidding)
In my peer group u/arctanthrope always comes up when we discuss Elmo, twitter, spaceX or pedo stuff - now I finally know why!
one of the vocally pro-nazi people I still have on Facebook did a paper at university on “Elon Musk: a case for transformational leadership” and has that posted on his company website. he also has clippy as his fb pp, and his profile tag line or whatever has “I am devoted to the well being of the people”
it’s an interesting mix of beliefs
mind you this guy is Canadian. he’s gradually been becoming more and more right-wing because he has been radicalized by his view of the left through mainstream media. however when it became clear that he was pro-Nazi was when he posted about how the people who were calling Nazis Nazis have blood on their hand for Good’s murder and that it was entirely clear it was justified self-defense