arnt these pretty shoddy designed, because of the gooseneck its easier to break.
what is the secret to viewing this image?
Web browser… open the thumbnail image in a new tab.
I just get PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR trying to connect to kbin.melroy.org at all.
Same here. Something is down on thekbin.melroy.org side.
I’ll put below the sh.itjust.works local cached thumbnail.
Totally replaced by having an induction stove. Regular kettle boils in like 2 minutes, never really use the electric kettle anymore.
2 minutes on the induction stove? So like… Still slightly slower than the kettle?
No? My electric kettle takes like 3-4 minutes to boil the same volume I can boil in 1.5-2 on the stove. Hell I can get enough for one cup of tea boiling in like, 1 minute.
Are you in the US?
Sounds like a bad kettle.
But you can save all that kettle space for something else. Might i recommend a toaster? You could have tea and toast!
Not today, Satan!
How 'bout a muffin?
We don’t like muffins ‘round here! No muffins, no toast, no teacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no pancakes, no potato cakes, no hot cross buns, and definitely - no smeggin’ flapjacks!
My professor had one and I never understood the point. Then it broke, I took it home and fixed it (he bought a new one and gave it to me) and boy it changed my life, I’m team electric kettle for life
Can you explain why its better than those electric hot water making thingys?
It is a electric hot water making thingy. I am the confuse
I much prefer this kind of kettle, because I can see the damn water instead of having to peek at a small crack of transparent plastic. Plus glass kettles are quieter, metal ones really liven up the whole apartment with the noise.
Kettle pros know how much is in there by how heavy it feels.
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Yes that is a kettle an electric hot water Tingo
Kettle owner here. They’re extremely efficient at heating water, often boiling a full load in under 8 minutes. Some models can be set to heat water at specific temperatures as well, making them a necessity for brewing different kinds of tea at their optimal conditions. Green tea for instance works best around 180F while black tea at 212F.
8 minutes
Laughing europeanly
boiling a full load in under 8 minutes
Chuckles in 240V
Chuckles in 3 minutes
I have an instant hot water tap that dispenses boiling water. I don’t understand why it’s not more popular with tea drinkers…
Because then you have to make tea with water that’s been sitting, boiling, in a tank, absorbing who knows what contaminates, for potentially days or weeks. You’re not even supposed to drink hot water that comes out of the regular water heater. For a boiling water tap, you need a second even tinier tank that will be used even less frequently.
Different teas require different temperatures to have the best taste. If you brew a green or oolong too hot, it can get very bitter. Electric kettles allow you to set specific temperatures for the drink you have and some keep the water at that temperature for periods of time.
this is valid for a lot of folks I guess. The tea drinkers here all like pgtips. filthy casuals lol
lol I’m a filthy casual gamer, but I take my tea seriously!
assloads of cost for installation + wasted energy
assloads of cost for installation
I installed it myself, the instructions were pretty straight forward, the piping all flexible (no braised copper). and I’m not really that handy.
wasted energy: this is something I’ve thought about; it generally cycles after dispensing, but sometimes you’ll hear it heating; I could put it on a timer so it’s not warming water in the middle of the night I guess…
but it’s reservoir is insulated, so it’s not the energy waste you’d think, especially compared to stove heating water / multiple kettles per day.
Why would anyone need boiling water 24/7 when you can have it on demand in 3 minutes?
Why would anyone need an fancy indoor flush toilet when they can just go to the outhouse?
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Yep. Have been using them for years, and just recently got a small gooseneck one. A lot of mornings I can just press a button, and in about 5 min I can come back and open a ramen cup just barely, and the water gets in without spilling. Also very nice for having tea whenever you want, and even sorta stirring honey or whatnot while pouring.
My microwave boils a cup of water in less than 2 minutes.
you mean an instant hot water tap? I wonder about why more tea drinkers aren’t into it but suspect it’s easier in places with larger kitchens as they do take up an outlet and room under the sink.
Like the ones embedded in the sink perimeter? If so, those always tasted terrible to me; descaling them is a pain. I can’t bring it over to my brewing setup. All the ones I used had a fixed temperature that was too hot for delicate teas and too cold for light roast beans. Also, for making a proper pour over coffee, you need a scale to precisely gauge how much water you’re putting through the beans.
ours gets water from the filter setup under the sink; scaling hasn’t been an issue. also we live in a city with remarkably good tap water compared to many of the shitholes I’ve lived in so…
I don’t drink a lot of coffee but when I do it’s beans- grinder- french press - into the thermos / mug. probably very banal compared to people who really appreciate coffee.
Heh, pretty much every kitchen in the UK - in homes and in offices - has a kettle that can boil a litre of water in 3-4 minutes. You can buy them in the supermarket for around £20.
And then there’s this beauty my wife treated me to a while back… https://www.sageappliances.com/en-gb/product/bke825?sku=SKE825BSS3GUK1
Electric Kettles are not ubiquitous here in the US the same way they are in the UK, but every Walmart, Target, or similar store in America has at least one electric kettle available for purchase on the shelf right now. They’re not rare here.
Half of those are like 800W and take forever to heat. The other half are at least 1500W so they only take three-ever, but that’s still way too long for me when I’m grumpy in the morning.
Anyway, long story short I have a 3000W kettle attached to a NEMA 6-20R in my kitchen.
Just put a tea bag in a cup of water and microwave it.
Talk like that will get you beaten up in much of the world (probs just the UK)
Fuck yeah! Non tea drinking countries don’t really get it but a kettle in Ireland / UK is like a rice cooker in China : comes with the kitchen.
Plenty of non-tea-drinking countries have kettles pretty much ubiquitously. It’s mostly just North America that doesn’t have them because the advantage over a stovetop kettle is greatly reduced due to only getting 1500W (rather than 3000W) out of the plugs.
Of course… I solved that for myself by putting a NEMA 6-20R in my kitchen and importing a 3 kW kettle.
My wife is a tea lover. Years ago I got her a hot water tap, it changed her life. Is there a reason tea loving countries don’t embrace them?
The first one I’ve seen that actually provides the water at a high enough temperature to make tea immediately from the tap is the quooker. I have a different one (quooker isn’t available in the US 😢), but it maxes out at about 85°C, so for black tea (which is what I tend to drink) I still have to put it in the kettle to get the rest of the way. For most people in countries with 240V electricity, the difference compared to just using the kettle isn’t really worth it.
We have them in kitchens that need to serve a large number of people - big offices, big hotel breakfast areas, transport lounges, etc.
But a standard kitchen, I think it’s like someone else said in this thread: The time it takes to boil a 240V kettle isn’t much more than the time it takes to get the mug ready, so there’s no real benefit to going through the extra structural work to fit a boiling water tap.
Also I think most “boiling water” taps are actually like 95°C, not boiling, so if you’re a black tea snob that isn’t acceptable.
yeah I think the thermodynamics of piping actually boiling water are complex and kinda dangerous (sputtering out the spout for example) - so 95c is where it ends up as it’s pumped out of the spout. if the tea lovers in this house (there are many) care they don’t seem to mind the loss of heat for the convinience of it.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT $1500 euro for that thing, and UP?
it better dispense boiling holy water for that money
It’s weird seeing that branded as Sage - I’m so used to seeing it as Breville here in Australia.
Had that one for ages (a decade or so?), before it finally gave up the ghost. I replaced it with the glass version, and that’s been kicking on for a few good years now.
Literally hard for me to consider any other brands of kitchen appliances, honestly - Breville is my default pick now, whenever possible.
gave up the ghost
It’s funny hearing that phrase in English. It’s a very common saying in German. Do you happen to know if it was translated or is it already common in Australia?
I’m curious, is “bought the farm” also as saying in Germany?
I’ve never heard of it nor could I find it in a lexicon of German sayings. What does it mean?
I guess it’s more of an American context. Someone “buying the farm” is a euphemism for them dying.
The explanation I’ve heard before is that it comes from the life experience of actual farmers. Someone getting started as a farm owner has to take out a very large loan to purchase a plot of land. If they have a family, they probably have a life insurance policy big enough to pay off that mortgage and provide for their family if they die young. So, if someone in that situation dies, their family gets enough money to pay off the mortgage. Through their death they “buy the farm.”
I think it may be a term originating from the WW1 or WW2 eras. There were a lot more young men purchasing farms back then, and with the casualties from the wars, there were a lot more of them “buying the farm.”
It’s common in the US, too. It’s probably a reference to Matthew 27:50, which in the KJV says “Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost”
That must be it. Great catch!
It is a pretty common phrase in Australia - though mostly among older, more “stereotypical” Aussies.
But like with most things here, it all but surely originated in Europe and was brought over by migrants sometime between 50 and 100 years ago!
It’s common in South Africa too.
Jesus I thought I was flush spending £40 on Russell Hobbs quiet one to match the toaster.
Btw, why don’t things like this, with short usage time but high current requirements, not have a (big) built-in capacitor to “pre-load”, to shorten the heating time and put less load on the house circuits?
Edit: added more context to why.
For AC power, capacitors don’t effectively store energy for later, and would change the power factor to make the resistive load reactive which can bring down the efficiency of the power transfer. For AC power a big ol resistive heater is probably as efficient as you can get, which is part of why those kettles are so simple and boil water so fast.
A kettle that stores energy would need to use DC power, converting it from AC and probably have a very large capacitor, more likely a battery.
Let’s make it even MORE complicated. Let’s make the kettle a heat pump powered by a bank of supercapacitors!
Because the current requirements are constant and not like a photography flash just a short but extreme amount. There’s no point in putting a few Watt seconds into a capacitor if the power requirement is 2kW for minutes.
Plus
- power storage is large
- you need a way to transfer the stored power into the water faster (otherwise why bother), which means thicker coils and more wear
because we unplug ours when we aren’t using it, and capacitors discharge when not under current.
You do know that capacitors can hold charge, even while unplugged, don’t you?
They can, but they discharge slowly until they reach a base state. An I mistaken?
You are correct. Even supercapacitors discharge but since they hold more energy it takes longer time before you can notice/measure it.
Like, they only stop a minute after the water boils already? Can confirm.
YOU CAN PRY MY CHARCOAL TEA KETTLE OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS
Bro is the 2000 era diesel pickup owner equivalent of the kettle world and I see nothing wrong
it’s legitimately good for camping
Now I can see that! Bet it’s satisfying as hell to use as well
I have few luxuries in my life, but one of them is a Grundig 3000 watt electric kettle (Grundig Red Sense WK 6330 to be precise).
You savages have to wait for hot water? Why not join all of East Asia in the future and get yourself one of these? Four liters of perfectly temped hot water anytime you want… I honestly don’t know how people who drink a lot of hot beverages live without them.
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Sounds like it uses electricity all day and night long instead of just while bringing the water to a boil.
You can leave it on all the time or have it shut off after it reaches temp. It doesn’t really use much energy either way because they are so well insulated. Mine has vacuum insulation that can keep the water to temp for about half a day, and if you want to bring it back to temp you just have to reheat it a few degrees. The vast amount of energy used to bring water to a boil in the beginning of the heat cycle.
But then you have this small container of boiling water constantly in contact with a metal or plastic containment vessel, absorbing who knows what contaminates due the higher temperatures.
It can be turned off after boiling, but it also has much better thermal insulation, so the water will stay hot for much longer than in an ordinary kettle
In Denmark there’s also this thing that is just built-in boiling water in your faucet - in addition to your cold and warm water.
I have been angry that they aren’t available in the US since I found out about them. My integrated hot water tap only gets to like 85°C
Ugh. A web"app" that only shows everything else until i lower my browsers guards. And entirely ignores
prefers-reduced-motionbut has flickering issues instead. Great. Web dev failed the job successfully.For me it’s the sign of ultimate home luxury. You can spend 1.5k to move your kettle into your faucet, the ultimate thing that is as unnecessary as it is cool, as cost-ineffective as it is weirdly efficient.
It’s definitely a luxury if you’re doing it on its own. If you’re remodeling a kitchen or building a new house, it’s more like a rounding error.
Source: just remodeled my kitchen.
I live in a house with 4 other tea drinkers; our instant hot water tap has paid for itself 20x over lol
Oh, I’m a bit crazy about my teas, half of the time I drink greens, and the boiling water is too hot for it
good luck!
Pour in some cold water first. Takes a bit to find the right mixture ratio, but you can get the temperature you want consistently
How has it paid for itself? Or are you just saying you really enjoy it? Very casual tea enjoyer here.
not having to buy a new kettle every few years for one :D
fewer fights about who’s putting the kettle on lol
I’m glad you like it, but a kettle is about $20, I can’t imagine that’s anything near “paying for itself.” I love my tea, but I’m a broke bitch, those words mean different things.
I can’t imagine
yeah I get that about you. good luck tho
I mean, my electric kettle boils water in like 45s, so it’s really not a big deal. I drink pour over coffee, so I just start the kettle and by the time I’m done setting up my coffee it’s done.
I wouldn’t even have that if it hadn’t been gifted to my wife for her business before she closed it. My microwave is perfectly capable of boiling water without having yet another single purpose device cluttering up the kitchen.
We only run 120v here, so it takes forever to heat up a decent amount of water. Plus, we drink a lot of hot drinks. We prob go through two to three liters a day.
I’m sceptical this is popular in East Asia where apartments are small and wages are low. All of these are more than 200USD
I mean this is a premium brand with added import mark ups. But yeah, pretty standard in most homes in Korea, China and Japan at least.
East Asia is cold as fuck in the winter time and typically drink a lot more hot beverages and soup/noodles than westerners. Plus, Japan where these things are absolutely everywhere only uses 100 volt in their power grid, so a kettle would take even longer than in the US.
300$ to save maybe s few minutes a day??
I take it you don’t make pasta often?
Every hot drink, every time you boil anything.
My kettle was $200 specifically for good pour over 🤷♂️
It’s for families of tea/hot water drinkers who drink many small cups throughout the day.
Depends on your electric output and how often you do hot beverages/noodles . But we prob use about two to three liters a day, which would take quite a bit of time with 120v.
Also, you can get some that only run like a hundred bucks.
Makes more sense then. I’m on 230V so boiling water for one cup is a matter of maybe a minute or so
Still need a kettle to pour a proper pour over.
Nah, mine actually has a specific setting for pour overs.
I promise you it’s not the same as a stagg. I’m no it saying it’s required but I promise you my kettle is more precise.
Works for my uses. You can set a precise temp and it has a setting where the nozzle mimics a gooseneck kettle. But tbh I don’t do a lot of pour overs, I usually just use my French press.
Congrats. You value speed, I value quality pour over. I’m simply explaining, since you possibly can’t conceive, why someone might have a device like that and go with a classic kettle.
Lol, I don’t know why you’re so butt hurt. I never said it was superior for pour overs, or that I couldn’t understand why someone would buy your favored contraption. I just said it suits my purposes.
And I gave you an answer because you lack the account to think before comments.
Electric kettles with different temp settings, ok thats a step up.
Boiling water in 3 minutes vs 4 and half minutes, fucking pointless. Just get the jawn that works for your setup.
for it to boil water at a lower temperature, the kettle would have to rocket itself into the sky a few thousand feet.
the temp settings on kettles are usually because some teas taste better when brewed at lower temps than boiling.
Im not sure what you are responding too exactly, I mentioned that the temp settings are a good thing. I have no idea why you mentioned boiling water at a lower temp…
It was just funny because the way you worded it could be interpreted to mean “why would someone buy a kettle that boils water at a lower or higher temp, just wait longer”. (If you set the kettle to a lower temp, it won’t boil unless it’s at a higher altitude because the kettle shuts off at that temp.)
Ahhhhh I see. And here I thought I knew words. You right.
