I’m not super sure what “it” refers to, but assuming “it” refers to newly bombing a foreign nation to enact regime change, and not just expanding on or continuing already existing bombing campaigns (which would expand the list to literally every dem president since Eisenhower):
Obama: Libya
Clinton: Yugoslavia
Kennedy: Cuba
Truman: Korea
But some of these are quite far in the past, which other users have suggested makes them invalid examples somehow. Idk. Not sure what the other poster was referring to, but I think this may have been it.
What’s the point? I’ll provide a list and then you’ll be like “congress didn’t declare war, that’s not a war!” etc. I know anyone who claims to not know this is either staggeringly misinformed, in which case I would have to hold their hand through various terms and explain in great detail, OR is just taking a piss. Either way, me providing links won’t help
I didn’t make any such claim regarding popularity, first we’d have to agree on what qualifies as “unpopular”.
Re wars, again, first let’s establish do you mean “declared by congress war” like the official USA propaganda line, or do you believe military strikes are also war (or even acts of war)? What about assassination?
With “acts of war” Democratic presidents routinely commit acts of war along with Republicans, how far can we go back?
if “declared war” is your line, then we haven’t been in a “real war” since Korea, so we’ve been “war free” since 1950s. I think that’s silly personally.
And I wasn’t responding to OP, OP doesn’t dictate all discussion that follows. I was responding to another claim within the thread, one regarding “Republicans” without the “unpopular” tag. Thank you
So, when Democrat Presidents do this (as they do) they are just stealing Republican plays?
That’s scary!
When did a Dem do it?
I’m not super sure what “it” refers to, but assuming “it” refers to newly bombing a foreign nation to enact regime change, and not just expanding on or continuing already existing bombing campaigns (which would expand the list to literally every dem president since Eisenhower):
Obama: Libya
Clinton: Yugoslavia
Kennedy: Cuba
Truman: Korea
But some of these are quite far in the past, which other users have suggested makes them invalid examples somehow. Idk. Not sure what the other poster was referring to, but I think this may have been it.
Look it up, Jesus you want me to list them all? (many)
No.
So never, got it
He’s just going to list cold war bullshit like I give a fuck what a Democrat did 60 years ago.
Let’s talk about today
So you don’t read and don’t know anything? I understand
And still no links for us to educate ourselves? I don’t understand
That’s okay, some day you will figure out how to look up things, IT’S NEAT
I like that you don’t know this, it amuses me
I mean, you could do the bare minimum and cite examples to back up your claim. Why is that a problem?
It’s always the same with these types, eh?
“OMG JUST LOOK IT UP!”
I mean, I’m willing to change my mind if they can provide a reputable source, but they never want to.
What’s the point? I’ll provide a list and then you’ll be like “congress didn’t declare war, that’s not a war!” etc. I know anyone who claims to not know this is either staggeringly misinformed, in which case I would have to hold their hand through various terms and explain in great detail, OR is just taking a piss. Either way, me providing links won’t help
Unpopular Democratic Presidents initiating wars? I guess you could argue Kennedy and Obama were unpopular at bit of a stretch.
I didn’t make any such claim regarding popularity, first we’d have to agree on what qualifies as “unpopular”.
Re wars, again, first let’s establish do you mean “declared by congress war” like the official USA propaganda line, or do you believe military strikes are also war (or even acts of war)? What about assassination?
With “acts of war” Democratic presidents routinely commit acts of war along with Republicans, how far can we go back?
if “declared war” is your line, then we haven’t been in a “real war” since Korea, so we’ve been “war free” since 1950s. I think that’s silly personally.
The whole thread is about unpopular presidents starting wars, you want to change the frame of the discussion you need to specify that.
And I wasn’t responding to OP, OP doesn’t dictate all discussion that follows. I was responding to another claim within the thread, one regarding “Republicans” without the “unpopular” tag. Thank you
I stand corrected.
Bless you, unexpected!