That’s all fine and dandy but Apple has been doing this shit for 20 years and the EU (and every other nation on the planet) has failed to do anything except force them to allow alternative app stores that Apple STILL MUST APPROVE and the developers STILL MUST PAY APPLE, so effectively nothing. It’s not complicated. Mandate Apple to allow the installation of any and all alternative app stores and apps, and deny them any control over it. Not just Google and Apple, but all consumer hardware.
You accept that EU has started doing something and then demand they mandate something which they are in the process of doing.
Crapple built up their position to this point over 20 years in a time where the US were considered allies. Trump has luckily come about to change that perception and to allow the EU to stop being a bunch of pansies clammering to their daddy protector. They cannot piss of the US completely at the moment as it would take a single presidential order from a rampantly maniacal orange man to switch of most of Europe.
Change doesn’t happen immediately. It’s slow. Give it time.
They didn’t start doing something, they’ve already done it. Apple has found loopholes and/or refused to comply. That’s failure, as far as I’m concerned. Punishment should be swift and traumatic, or it’s pointless. It shouldn’t take years for the EU to enforce the laws they wrote.
I don’t understand why you hope/advocate for Google to get a short-term win here if you don’t also expect a short-term solution. You’re wishing for a world where we all get fucked over and then have to sit around waiting for the wheels of bureaucracy to slowly turn instead of a world where we never get fucked over to begin with. Very strange priorities.
I don’t expect a short term solution. Where did you read that?
If we keep android the way it is and just slowly boil the frog, there will be little to no incentive to spend lots of money and time on alternatives. If you seriously believe the majority isn’t already getting fucked over by Scroogle and their spy devices, what world do you live in?
There isn’t going to be an acceleration for a non-android phone if android still stays “acceptable”. It’s not like investments and developments in alternatives are going faster than bureaucracy. When do you expect we get a big third or fourth competitor in the smartphone OS market? Harmony by Huawei?
That would be nice but it’s not what I’m asking for. I’m asking for expeditious change. There’s absolutely no reason this should take more than even a year, except unnecessary bureaucracy.
Like I said, they’ve been doing for for 20 years, it should’ve been stopped 20 years ago. I have zero faith they will ever succeed.
That’s all fine and dandy but Apple has been doing this shit for 20 years and the EU (and every other nation on the planet) has failed to do anything except force them to allow alternative app stores that Apple STILL MUST APPROVE and the developers STILL MUST PAY APPLE, so effectively nothing. It’s not complicated. Mandate Apple to allow the installation of any and all alternative app stores and apps, and deny them any control over it. Not just Google and Apple, but all consumer hardware.
You accept that EU has started doing something and then demand they mandate something which they are in the process of doing.
Crapple built up their position to this point over 20 years in a time where the US were considered allies. Trump has luckily come about to change that perception and to allow the EU to stop being a bunch of pansies clammering to their daddy protector. They cannot piss of the US completely at the moment as it would take a single presidential order from a rampantly maniacal orange man to switch of most of Europe.
Change doesn’t happen immediately. It’s slow. Give it time.
They didn’t start doing something, they’ve already done it. Apple has found loopholes and/or refused to comply. That’s failure, as far as I’m concerned. Punishment should be swift and traumatic, or it’s pointless. It shouldn’t take years for the EU to enforce the laws they wrote.
You want immediate change. You’re asking for the impossible and disappointed you’re not getting it or that it isn’t happening.
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I don’t understand why you hope/advocate for Google to get a short-term win here if you don’t also expect a short-term solution. You’re wishing for a world where we all get fucked over and then have to sit around waiting for the wheels of bureaucracy to slowly turn instead of a world where we never get fucked over to begin with. Very strange priorities.
I don’t expect a short term solution. Where did you read that?
If we keep android the way it is and just slowly boil the frog, there will be little to no incentive to spend lots of money and time on alternatives. If you seriously believe the majority isn’t already getting fucked over by Scroogle and their spy devices, what world do you live in?
There isn’t going to be an acceleration for a non-android phone if android still stays “acceptable”. It’s not like investments and developments in alternatives are going faster than bureaucracy. When do you expect we get a big third or fourth competitor in the smartphone OS market? Harmony by Huawei?
That would be nice but it’s not what I’m asking for. I’m asking for expeditious change. There’s absolutely no reason this should take more than even a year, except unnecessary bureaucracy.
Like I said, they’ve been doing for for 20 years, it should’ve been stopped 20 years ago. I have zero faith they will ever succeed.