• MrSmith@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Why? Why do we need to pollute the earth even more so that the capitalists can gain more capital outside of it?

    We have crises here that are only exacerbated by this dumb need to send people to space.

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      13 hours ago

      Space used to be inspiring when it was the playground of scientists and engineers. What made it all vomit was the privatization of astronautics (and the associated place in our imaginations) to the worst possible assholes and their cult of personality.

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        31 minutes ago

        Yup, I’m fine with it being done by a public org in the pursuit of science and furtherment of humanity.

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        13 hours ago

        Bingo.

        I’m fine with national space programs and whatnot.

        I’m not fine with private sector in space.

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          I’m fine with national space programs and whatnot.

          Are you aware of just how much of NASA’s budget was being drained for bullshit ‘cost+’ contracts with Boeing et al?

          Elon sucks, but spacex has progressed space tech significantly, at a much lower cost than before.

          National space programs are great, but the US turned them into a kickbacks program.

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      13 hours ago

      We have crises here that are only exacerbated by this dumb need to send people to space.

      The human race is capable of doing more than one thing at a time. That we aren’t working on solving our many crises has nothing to do with whether or not we’re in space. You’re tying together two issues that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

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        11 hours ago

        That we aren’t working on solving our many crises has nothing to do with whether or not we’re in space. You’re tying together two issues that have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

        Climate change and space travel are literally opposing goals. If we send people to space, we add more greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere. If we stop polluting the atmosphere with dead dino farts we cant get people into space.

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        13 hours ago

        “Absolutely nothing to do with each other”

        Do you think rockets burn unicorn farts and exhaust pixie dust?

        We have enough morons sending their penis extensions to space for shits and giggles, we do not want to “start manufacturing in space” so capitalists can fuck the climate up even more for the rest of us.

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          13 hours ago

          Do you think rockets burn unicorn farts and exhaust pixie dust?

          By that logic, pretty much any activity we do exacerbates the crisis. The climate is not being fucked because we’re launching rockets, save your passion for those issues where it actually matters.

          we do not want to “start manufacturing in space”

          Speak for yourself.

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            12 hours ago

            By that logic, pretty much any activity we do exacerbates the crisis

            Almost the right conclusion. Some activity exacerbates more than other. Sending rockets to space is the “more” one.

            The climate is not being fucked because we’re launching rockets

            Exactly! Not yet. Let’s keep it that way.

            I understand we’re all fans of science-fiction here, and especially gullible when billionaires promise us “colonies in Mars next year”, but try to keep it grounded since manufacturing isn’t even sustainable yet here on earth.