• PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml
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    42 minutes ago

    Do you make it a habit to misquote people on purpose? My post is right there, if you want to use quotation marks to say I said something, at least write what I actually wrote instead of making something up, that’s very dishonest.
    I’m very specifically saying ideograms/logograms aren’t a “functional” writing system (yeah, they are technically “functional” - as imperial units, they are just very bad). Ideograms/logograms aren’t exclusive to the Japanese - and neither do the Japanese use only that system (so your fabricated quote is non sequitur). The mention of Japanese is a context parody of the comment I replied to, had the guy said “Excellent time for Chinese…” then my sentence would say Chinese instead of Japanese. I’m roasting a writing system and you all trying to make it about race… quite sad and pathetic excuse to be outraged.

    ps: “Imperial measurement users” are an “identifying or culturally significant group”, they are called Americans - technically, Liberia and Myanmar also primarily use imperial units, but they are not a culturally significant group over the internet. So if you are talking about “imperial measurement users”, you are talking about Americans.

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      36 minutes ago

      I’m not being dishonest, I paraphrased.

      Excellent time for the Japanese to drop ideogram/logogram system and have an alphabet like a functional language.

      Your original comment (included above for convenience) very clearly implies that Japanese is not a functional language because it doesn’t use an alphabet. I didn’t misrepresent you at all.

      “Imperial measurement users” are an “identifying or culturally significant group”, they are called Americans

      First, plenty of other places other than America, Liberia, and Myanmar use imperial units. And even if they didn’t, the inclusion of Liberia and Myanmar means “imperial system users” isn’t just identifying Americans, so you’re just flat out incorrect about that. I’m ignoring the bit where you said “[Liberia and Myanmar] are not culturally significant groups over the internet” because that implies that you think bigotry only exists on the Internet, or maybe you think you can only be bigoted against a group with a large enough Internet presence or something? Which I know you can’t possibly think, so I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt there and chalking that up to a miscommunication.

      Second, bigotry necessarily involves holding an unreasonable position or belief. The belief that the imperial system is worse than metric is not unreasonable, because there’s evidence supporting that belief, and there’s even a large number of imperial system users that hold that belief. The belief that it’s “time for the Japanese to drop ideogram/logogram system and have an alphabet like a functional language” is unreasonable for the reasons I explained previously.

      Third, it doesn’t matter what ethnicity or nationality you used, the structure of your statement would still be bigoted, because it would still be an unreasonable belief that prejudices against a particular group of people.

      Hope this helps.

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        13 minutes ago

        “The belief that the imperial system is worse than metric is not unreasonable”
        Is the belief that the logographic system is worse than alphabets (and abugidas, for that matter) unreasonable? You seem to suggest that, arbitrarily, for this case it’s not just unreasonable, but also bigotry…

        “It’s time for the Japanese to drop their system” - racism.
        “It’s time for the Americans to drop their system” - not racism.
        Ok, whatever makes you feel better about yourself. I will still say logograms and imperial units are awful.