I’m not sure I like these comments. Under the presumption that an uploaded consioness is even possible that’s still a sapient individual I don’t really think you can possibly do something to deserve eternal torment like some of these comments seem so gleeful about.
I actually think that this thread is extremely useful for demonstrating that the downside of obtaining immortality by uploading your consciousness is that you risk handing your digital soul into the hands of a wrathful and malicious deity for all eternity.
(Though honestly, I think that uploading is overrated anyway given that I will still be dead, so how does the continued existence of a copy of me help anything?)
They are being inserted into a 2014 video game. I think it is safe to assume it is just their likeness that is used in the game in this scenario. It’s not like the video game is capable of doing anything with the consciousness data of the files.
Why a future child is playing (what I understand to be) the worst game in the series is the strangest part of this story.
You hate this planet because someone expressed discomfort at the idea of tormenting an uploaded consciousness for eternity? That’s a weird reason, but to each their own I suppose.
I share your consternation, but I also find it cathartic to imagine testing how long it would take the simulated consciousness of Elon Musk to develop a sense of compassion for workers when forced to work in a Tesla factory (and indeed, if that would ever happen). I imagine I’d be far less comfortable thinking this way if it wasn’t a concept squarely in the domain of science fiction. I think many of the most gleeful commenters are people who are presuming that simulating a consciousness in this way isn’t possible.
Some of them are dark, but you can’t do this anyway. The men they’re talking about need to think about their future a little bit and come back down to earth. Admittedly, I like the teenage girl playing sims with their character the most.
I don’t like tech bros. If I could snap my fingers tomorrow and kill all billionaires I would do it. Its just bad to want to watch someone suffer and wanting them to suffer forever is inherently immoral. No human can do so much bad that they deserve eternal torment because humans can only live for a finite period of time and create a finite amount of harm.
Consciousness is a process, not just data. If they copy the weights of your brain neurons, they would be able to create new life that thinks like you, but is NOT you. Although that new life would be very confused and would honestly believe that it is you.
Thus, it’s neither eternal life nor eternal torment. Maybe torment of newly created AIs, but we didn’t come to “AI have rights” yet.
I have a super weird view of selfhood I think. I know that the uploaded existence wouldn’t be me but I also don’t care if that makes sense. If you’ve ever watched pantheon I would totally upload myself even if it killed me so that the uploaded me could exist.
So do it? Honestly the biggest issue is privacy, someone could analyse your dark fantasies in detail.
And yeah I think we will be able to simulate human brain at some point. What’s more interesting, would we be able to continue the thought process outside the biological box. Could I escape into machine? Doesn’t guarantee huge longevity boost as machines bug out & break from time to time, but still.
I don’t really think you can possibly do something to deserve eternal torment like some of these comments seem so gleeful about.
It wouldn’t be eternal. Most kids don’t have that kind of attention span.
Plus, these consciousnesses might be carefully protected the way major corporations have protected my SSN. So maybe the billionaires have nothing to worry about…
Read the other comments their are multiple people bringing up eternal simulated torture. I never said anything about the post itself I specifically called out the comments being weird.
I’m not sure I like these comments. Under the presumption that an uploaded consioness is even possible that’s still a sapient individual I don’t really think you can possibly do something to deserve eternal torment like some of these comments seem so gleeful about.
I actually think that this thread is extremely useful for demonstrating that the downside of obtaining immortality by uploading your consciousness is that you risk handing your digital soul into the hands of a wrathful and malicious deity for all eternity.
(Though honestly, I think that uploading is overrated anyway given that I will still be dead, so how does the continued existence of a copy of me help anything?)
They are being inserted into a 2014 video game. I think it is safe to assume it is just their likeness that is used in the game in this scenario. It’s not like the video game is capable of doing anything with the consciousness data of the files.
Why a future child is playing (what I understand to be) the worst game in the series is the strangest part of this story.
Yes these comments are implying that thier “likeness” is being tuned into a slave/forced to endure endless pain.
The post inserts them into a 2014 video game, but some comments here go quite a bit further.
Simping for fictional tech bros. God I hate this planet.
You hate this planet because someone expressed discomfort at the idea of tormenting an uploaded consciousness for eternity? That’s a weird reason, but to each their own I suppose.
WON’T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE FICTIONAL TECH BROS
Me: Torture bad
You: why are you simping
Go to therapy.
If this kind of fictional torture is this bad to you I hope you never find out about slasher movies.
Them: “If I could, I’d torture and rape my enemies.”
Me: “That’s fucked up…”
You: “It’s only hypothetical, it’s a fictitious scenario!”
You’re still advocating for torture. Why does the hypothetical matter?
I share your consternation, but I also find it cathartic to imagine testing how long it would take the simulated consciousness of Elon Musk to develop a sense of compassion for workers when forced to work in a Tesla factory (and indeed, if that would ever happen). I imagine I’d be far less comfortable thinking this way if it wasn’t a concept squarely in the domain of science fiction. I think many of the most gleeful commenters are people who are presuming that simulating a consciousness in this way isn’t possible.
Some of them are dark, but you can’t do this anyway. The men they’re talking about need to think about their future a little bit and come back down to earth. Admittedly, I like the teenage girl playing sims with their character the most.
Do bear in mind that we’re talking about a select few persons that didn’t hesitate at all to do far, far worse to thousands of human beings.
Just google “usaid cuts impact”, which was deliberately caused by these tech bros without a shred of remorse.
And the scenario in this post is a fictional one, unlike the untold destruction caused by these cruel cuts.
I don’t like tech bros. If I could snap my fingers tomorrow and kill all billionaires I would do it. Its just bad to want to watch someone suffer and wanting them to suffer forever is inherently immoral. No human can do so much bad that they deserve eternal torment because humans can only live for a finite period of time and create a finite amount of harm.
For now.
And killing all billionaires is not going to cause immense pain for millions of people?
Consciousness is a process, not just data. If they copy the weights of your brain neurons, they would be able to create new life that thinks like you, but is NOT you. Although that new life would be very confused and would honestly believe that it is you.
Thus, it’s neither eternal life nor eternal torment. Maybe torment of newly created AIs, but we didn’t come to “AI have rights” yet.
I have a super weird view of selfhood I think. I know that the uploaded existence wouldn’t be me but I also don’t care if that makes sense. If you’ve ever watched pantheon I would totally upload myself even if it killed me so that the uploaded me could exist.
So do it? Honestly the biggest issue is privacy, someone could analyse your dark fantasies in detail.
And yeah I think we will be able to simulate human brain at some point. What’s more interesting, would we be able to continue the thought process outside the biological box. Could I escape into machine? Doesn’t guarantee huge longevity boost as machines bug out & break from time to time, but still.
It wouldn’t be eternal. Most kids don’t have that kind of attention span.
Plus, these consciousnesses might be carefully protected the way major corporations have protected my SSN. So maybe the billionaires have nothing to worry about…
Read the other comments their are multiple people bringing up eternal simulated torture. I never said anything about the post itself I specifically called out the comments being weird.