People love them because they still offer good products and services, some of them completely for free. I think it’s perfectly valid to recognize and appreciate the good, even when there’s also bad.
I’m not giving Valve recognition, I’m recognizing that Valve offers good/useful products and services. Maybe I should have said “acknowledge” instead of “recognize”, but you’re saying something different than me.
Valve is notably better (not good, but better) than the other companies you’ve listed.
That is, of course, an anomaly. A good monarchy lasts only as long as the monarch. A good company that exists for longer than the average human lifespan will quickly become no different from its peers.
I agree they’re better. I am also blinded a tad, they made Team Fortress 2, my all time favorite game.
But they’re better for now. There’s nothing stopping them from changing their ways when Gabe retires/dies. Maybe they have a private agreement/contract for the next guy to abide by. Maybe they don’t.
All I know is, Valve is mostly good right now. All major players in the tech space had some good intentions at one point (except Facebook). Google used to be about finding content on the internet quickly, easily, and without ads. Now they hide content, spam you with ads and fake overviews, and fight ad blockers.
Let’s not forget Valve started the microtransaction hell of gaming with their crates in Team Fortress 2. It worked so well they made the game free for more people to buy more crates. Blizzard’s Overwatch didn’t make you buy a key to open them, Valve still does.
Will Valve turn evil overnight? Probably not. But when Gabe is gone, the next billionaire will be as greedy to start with. They’re far from the greediest gaming company, but they probably won’t roll back any of their percentage cuts or ease off on the gambling in their games.
And I’ll just have to sign and shake my head as I told people that trusting a company you like remaining a company to like isn’t a good thing in a world like ours.
StarCraft was one of my favorite games growing up. I can still quote most of the Terran units.
I don’t know when or where to say they officially went from “Good with issues” to “Bad with some good games”. Doesn’t help they ignored their work culture for over a decade.
Refreshing to hear this take. Valve and Gabe get glazed so hard when at the end of the day it’s about the bottom dollar for them too.
Honestly I think people love them so much because everyone else has been horrible by comparison.
People love them because they still offer good products and services, some of them completely for free. I think it’s perfectly valid to recognize and appreciate the good, even when there’s also bad.
They don’t need your recognition though, I think the $500m yacht says enough.
I’m not giving Valve recognition, I’m recognizing that Valve offers good/useful products and services. Maybe I should have said “acknowledge” instead of “recognize”, but you’re saying something different than me.
Well said, Gus.
If you made people’s nostalgia, they will defend you.
Nintendo has defenders. Disney has defenders. Blizzard has defenders. And so on.
People will defend a company for free because they did something cool ~20 years ago.
Valve is notably better (not good, but better) than the other companies you’ve listed.
That is, of course, an anomaly. A good monarchy lasts only as long as the monarch. A good company that exists for longer than the average human lifespan will quickly become no different from its peers.
I agree they’re better. I am also blinded a tad, they made Team Fortress 2, my all time favorite game.
But they’re better for now. There’s nothing stopping them from changing their ways when Gabe retires/dies. Maybe they have a private agreement/contract for the next guy to abide by. Maybe they don’t.
All I know is, Valve is mostly good right now. All major players in the tech space had some good intentions at one point (except Facebook). Google used to be about finding content on the internet quickly, easily, and without ads. Now they hide content, spam you with ads and fake overviews, and fight ad blockers.
Let’s not forget Valve started the microtransaction hell of gaming with their crates in Team Fortress 2. It worked so well they made the game free for more people to buy more crates. Blizzard’s Overwatch didn’t make you buy a key to open them, Valve still does.
Will Valve turn evil overnight? Probably not. But when Gabe is gone, the next billionaire will be as greedy to start with. They’re far from the greediest gaming company, but they probably won’t roll back any of their percentage cuts or ease off on the gambling in their games.
And I’ll just have to sign and shake my head as I told people that trusting a company you like remaining a company to like isn’t a good thing in a world like ours.
Oh man on that note talk about Blizzards fall from grace. Just a shell of their former selves.
StarCraft was one of my favorite games growing up. I can still quote most of the Terran units.
I don’t know when or where to say they officially went from “Good with issues” to “Bad with some good games”. Doesn’t help they ignored their work culture for over a decade.
Yes. They’re only horrible in the way most gaming companies were decades ago rather than the wretchedly awful way the companies are today.