• pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
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          Well in reality they will use waterboarding or some other technique that ensures suffering while not being life threatening. There’s actually a great movie called Unthinkable about this.

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            That still doesn’t mean you’re gonna remember it. I forget my master password all the time. Torture would just ensure I’d forget it even worse.

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              That’s the whole thing with torture. It demonstrably doesn’t work, but people who use it aren’t the people who’re concerned with scientific reality

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                It does work for people who value their wellbeing more than they value the information they remember. For remembering stuff there may be some medical injestions before torture.

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                  No, there is no medical injections, they only exist in badly written novels. In reality yeah, people will talk, they will talk so much you wouldn’t be able to shut them up. What you can’t have is the reliable information, people will tell you everything they think you want to hear so you wouldn’t worsen their wellbeing. And you can’t know at all, did they tell you the truth, or what they think you want them to say. You might as well ask an LLM for information. The only difference is, LLM is not an entity and can’t feel pain, and that’s probably the main purpose of torture.

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                    Yeah. Trevor in GTA 5 explains the concept quite well. I’m paraphrasing but he says that torture is done for the act itself and not to get information

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            I see, still i wouldn’t remember the password, i need to find my master passwd on a piece of paper somewhere i don’t know myself