• Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml
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    23 hours ago

    Don’t use whataboutism to shirk your responsibilities. Recycling properly is a good and necessary thing. Though it’d be more effective to create less waste in the first place.

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      23 hours ago

      Way to not understand the meme bro. This isn’t about shirking responsibilities or even not recycling. It is about the government telling us to recycle but not regulating big business at all. But go on with your liberal talking down on everyone schtick

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        23 hours ago

        The meme used a shitty comparison. The green bin program is one of the most effective and effecient waste reduction strategies. It reduces the distances garbage may have to travel, it reduces methane gas production, it reduces landfill use which extends landfill lifespans, and it creates clean enough compost to be used locally for decorative gardens and lawns.

        Using something like don’t buy that product, the government says its bad, meanwhile the government failing to regulate said product would have maybe been a better comparison.

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          22 hours ago

          Not everything needs to be written out like you wrote for it to be understood for people who can read into context. It literally says “The government wants us to get this right” that is the crux of the message here. Nowhere in the meme does it say not to recycle or that recycling is bad, the juxtaposition is that no one is telling Meta to do anything but they are telling people to sort trash.

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              21 hours ago

              Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest.

              When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter.

              Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense.

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            21 hours ago

            I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess.

            Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills – the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones.

            The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It’s cities trying to mitigate a separate issue.

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              21 hours ago

              Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments.

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                21 hours ago

                I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the “I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?” stage, I didn’t think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol

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            22 hours ago

            I interpret the meme as “theres no point doing this right because big corps aren’t expected to do anything right”. Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across.

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          21 hours ago

          Does the city your in put the green bin in a different place than the others?

          Most places it’s just different trucks headed to the same landfill.

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            19 hours ago

            Many cities process the organic waste at their landfill sites. They also often allow people to come buy the compost from the landfill.

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                17 hours ago

                Why would a city go through all the logistics of running a green cart collection just to toss it on the same pile of trash? Some loads may be too contaminated to be composted but the vast majority of cities collecting organics seperately will turn it into compost. Your city’s website likely has more details about how their landfill and collections operate.

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                  In Poland we do have a lot of separate trash bins at the lowest levels, because it was ordered by local administrations to look good. It is disheartening though when you observe it all go into a single trash truck every time.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Because someone said they had to have a program and they just kind of did the bare minimum.

                  Because they meant well and hired a company to do it, and dumping was ehat they were set up to do.

                  Because they meant well, and then found out facilities didnt exist or there was a liability issue that made them skittish but the program had already been in campaign ads so constituents still had to see the bins, but the city would just be putting them wherever…