• Dessalines@lemmy.mlOP
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    17 hours ago

    Bourgeios “democracy” isn’t actually a people’s democracy, even though its sold as one. Its really an oligarchy/aristocracy/capitalist dictatorship.

    We shouldn’t allow capitalists to define democracy as bourgeios parliamentarism, especially when that form of government works against the interests of the vast majority of people.

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        10 hours ago

        Socialist / people’s democracy. It takes different forms in different countries, and many countries in the global south that are currently capitalist are starting on that socialist road.

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            6 hours ago

            You’ll need to educate yourself on the history of socialist states yourself, I can’t do that for you.

            A good place to start is the PRC’s five dont’s, a list of things to avoid at all costs from bourgeois democracy.

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              You’ll need to educate yourself on the history of socialist states yourself, I can’t do that for you.

              I asked because you said there were multiple variations.

              I ask because the qualifications seem to be more idealistic and aspirational than mechanistic. None of the descriptions I’ve seen present significant obstacles to the corruption that plagues our current system. A “solemn declaration” doesn’t do much against emergent behavior. The founding fathers were against political parties too, that didn’t prevent them.

              Every system is corruptible. The form of corruption changes to suit the underlying system, but given enough time every system can be compromised. Even pure direct democracy can be manipulated by popular demagogues.

              I’m asking, specifically, what part of whichever variation of a “people’s democracy” you specifically have in mind makes that democracy invulnerable to corruption and manipulation? Not intentions, but actual structural features.

              That’s not smug or rhetorical, I’m legitimately curious. If I’m mistaken, and there is some fundamental property that achieves what I’m asking, I’d like nothing more than to know what it is.