I can’t get through the huge pop up, has anybody have a transcript of the news?
While confirming that she and other Global Sumud Flotilla members were abused by Israeli forces who abducted and jailed them, Swedish climate and human rights activist Greta Thunberg on Monday implored humanity to focus on the genocide in Gaza as it enters its third year.
“I could talk for a very, very long time about our mistreatment and abuses in our imprisonment. Trust me, but that is not the story,” Thunberg said during a press conference at Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport in Greece, where she and other flotilla participants released by Israel were greeted by a cheering crowd.
“What happened here is that Israel, while continuing to worsen and escalate their genocide and mass destruction with genocidal intent, attempting to erase an entire population, an entire nation in front of our very eyes, they once again violated international law by preventing humanitarian aid from getting into Gaza while people are being starved,” she continued.
“This genocide and other genocides are being enabled and fueled by our own governments, our institutions, our media, and companies. It is our responsibility to end that complicity… to use our privileges, our platforms, to take a stance against this, that is in every way unjustifiable,” Thunberg asserted.
“I will never, ever comprehend how humans can be so evil that you would deliberately starve millions of people living trapped under an illegal siege as a continuation of decades and decades of suffocating oppression, apartheid, occupation,” she added.
Thunberg’s remarks came as Israeli forced continued their bombing and invasion of Gaza with the objective of conquering, occupying, and ethnically cleansing Palestinians from the strip. Israeli airstrikes—which have reportedly killed nearly 100 Palestinians over the past two days—continued despite US President Donald Trump’s Friday exhortation to “immediately stop” bombing the embattled strip, citing Hamas’ willingness to conditionally release the remaining Israeli and other hostages it has held since October 7, 2023.
Trump urged negotiators to “move fast” toward a ceasefire agreement ahead of Monday’s indirect peace talks between Israel and Hamas in Egypt.
Since launching the assault and “complete siege” of Gaza following the October 7, 2023 Hamas-led attack, Israeli forces have killed at least 67,139 Palestinians, according to the Gaza Health Ministry—whose figures are widely believed to be a vast undercount. Most of those killed have been women and children.
Over 169,500 Palestinians have also been wounded in Gaza and thousands more are missing and presumed dead and buried beneath rubble. Most of Gaza’s more than 2 million people have also been forcibly displaced, often multiple times, while hundreds of thousands of others are starving in an engineered famine that officials say has killed at least 460 people.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant are wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague for alleged crimes against humanity and war crimes in Gaza including murder and forced starvation. Just under two miles away at the International Court of Justice, tribunal members are weighing a genocide case against Israel brought by South Africa and supported by around two dozen nations and regional blocs.
Thunberg and more than 400 other Global Sumud Flotilla members were intercepted last week by Israeli forces in international waters before being taken to Israel and jailed. Thunberg told Swedish officials Saturday that she had been “subjected to harsh treatment in Israeli custody.”
“She informed of dehydration," a Swedish Foreign Ministry email noted. "She has received insufficient amounts of both water and food. She also stated that she had developed rashes which she suspects were caused by bedbugs. She spoke of harsh treatment and said she had been sitting for long periods on hard surfaces.”
Turkish flotilla activist Ersin Çelik said he witnessed Israelis abusing Thunberg.
“They dragged little Greta by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag,” Çelik said. “They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others.”
Italian journalist and flotilla member Lorenzo D’Agostino said that Thunberg was “wrapped in the Israeli flag and paraded like a trophy.”
Abducted flotilla members said they were humiliated by Israelis, including National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who called them “terrorists.” This, from a man who in 2007 was convicted of incitement to racism and supporting the Kahanist terrorist group Kach.
D’Agostino told CNN Monday that “we were shocked by the level of humiliation and gratuitous cruelty that these people used on us."
"The way we were treated was… pushing the mistreatment and the humiliation to the limit that they could afford,” he said, explaining that his captors “knew that they couldn’t harm us physically” if activists were from countries like Italy.
“I was sharing my cell with a Turkish citizen whose arm was broken and he was left without painkillers for two days.”
“People coming from countries that are not allied [with Israel] were harmed physically,” D’Agostino added. “I was sharing my cell with a Turkish citizen whose arm was broken and he was left without painkillers for two days.”
Israel’s Foreign Ministry said Sunday that flotilla members’ claims of abuse are “brazen lies,” and that “all the detainees’ legal rights are fully upheld.”
As of Monday, Israel had deported 341 of the 479 detained flotilla activists. The remaining detainees are either awaiting deportation or, in some cases—including one Spanish woman who allegedly bit an Israeli medic during a forced medical examination at Ketziot Prison—are facing extended detention.
The alleged abuse of flotilla detainees pales in comparison to what Palestinian prisoners have allegedly endured at the hands of their Israeli captors. Former detainees and Israeli personnel have described beatings, rape and sexual torture by male and female soldiers, routine amputations due to constant shackling, burnings, electrocutions, attacks by dogs, ice-water dousings, denial of food and water, sleep deprivation, constant loud music, and other abuse.
The Israeli military has launched investigations into the deaths of dozens of detainees at the notorious Sde Teiman prison, including one who died after allegedly being sodomized with an electric baton.
Another group of boats is currently en route from Europe in another attempt to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza.
“As more ships set sail for Gaza, we are likely to see a repeat of these events,” Amnesty International said Monday, referring to the alleged abuse of Global Sumud Flotilla activists. “States must act now and make clear to Israel that its suffocating blockade and its ongoing genocide against Palestinians must end now.”
She’s an hero, that’s she.
I hope she doesn’t an hero.
Makes sense, Israel has gone way too far in Gaza.
You were okay with apartheid and ethnic cleansing, but draw the line at genocide?
Well, they never said when Israel went too far, just that they have. You can also be misinformed about a subject and retroactively see they went too far much earlier than you thought.
Wat Exit: I misread the comment. I subtract my wat. Thanks for the downvotes, it made me re-read the original comment
How did you come to that conclusion? Just trying to stir shit up?
Please expand.
Ah yes, Wikipedia.
how’s life under your rock? I’m assuming ignorance like that is peaceful
Maube read my follow up comment, heh.
are you drunk?
I’m drunk.
… are you having trouble opening your eyes? You have to ask your eyelids politely?
The original message makes it sounds like somehow before two years ago everything was fine with Gaza. That what Israel was doing in the 78 years prior to that was no issue. I want OP to expand on his or her thoughts.
Israel hasn’t “gone too far” now… Israel was already going to far before that. If fast genocide was your redline as opposed to slower territorial expansion, seige warfare, and occupation… Yeah you’re the reasonthis they’ve had free reign to take the situation to it’s current inevitable consequence.
My bad. “Please expand” to me sounds like you’re asking how they’ve gone too far in a possibly disbelieving manner similar to asking for a source.
You have to understand that not everyone was/is aware Israel’s doings. The media in the west has always supported Israel, so you never heard anything negative about them. You cannot blame someone who could have had no prior knowledge of it and tell them they are the reason Israel had free reign, that’s crazy talk. Anyone standing against what they are doing now or in the past is a good thing.
Did you even know until the last couple years? Until the attack happened?
If so, why weren’t you being vocal and active about it? I could flip it on the head and say you are the reason Israel have had this free reign, because you knew and didn’t tell us. See how dumb that sounds?
Did you even know until the last couple years? Until the attack happened?
As a moderately informed person, yes I’ve been aware of this for decades.
And yes, thank you, I have been vocal and active since. How about you?
So informed, yet so blind. You completely missed the point.
No
I was just looking at another post showing a picture/drawing with north Korean and ruzzian soldiers smiling happy together. OMG I got blind sided by the fellows there. Looks like at least some of the posters were ruzzian and I had no clue. I ended up blocking a few. How can they be so confused as to what reality is?
so did you just decide to comment about that post on whatever next post you saw, or did you pick this one for any reason in particular?
Yeah I’m confused.
- Israel is evil now
- bad people do or did live in Gaza but Innocent people should not be sacrificed.
- ruzzia is an asshole doing the same to Ukraine.
But…there the ruzzians also think Israel is evil? At least the ones on that post. So I’m just confused.
People who defend themselves from foreign invaders are bad?
Yeah, I don’t understand what happens in a person’s brain to not have a default of “invading someone and killing their people is inexcusable”
It’s called being a Sociopath With No Morals.
Lots of those have been crawling out of the woodworks and taking sides entirely based on the politicians from their favored political force taking that side, showing us that they have no Principles and Morals of their own whatsoever or at least that their own inate sense of Good and Evil is so weak that even the mass murder of civilians (including thousands of babies and tens of thousands of children) is less important to them than following the leader of their political tribe.
Any half-way decent human being looks at this and judges it based on the character of the actions that are being commited, and giving that it includes purposefully murdering children (to the point of literally executing them using snipers) its so morally powerful that most people are unable to not have a reaction of revulsion, but Amoral Sociopaths have no emotional reaction to even the murder of children and hence couldn’t care less about that aspect of this situation, hence will just not understand “what’s all the fuss about it” and/or just mindlessly “follow the leader” on it since the part of a normal human being’s character that would be shouting for them to defend the victims and stop the aggressors, does not exist in such people.
Its unfortunate that the way our brains process ingroup and outgroup perceptions leads to such depravity spilling out of what we’d consider those who are true sociopaths into the thoughts and actions of every day people. The bug in the code of human cognition that is social identity theory is essentially dehumanization, the creation of facism, and genocide.
Yes exactly! That moral compass was just not there. I’m afraid of this stuff spreading. What a terrible future that would be if I could not expect sympathy from a passersby if I had just been hit by a car or fallen from a ladder.
Yet, even now, brown people are being kidnapped by the people who are supposed to defend our country… And nobody around defends from the kidnappers. We are afraid.
In all fairness, I think it’s a mix of what @[email protected] wrote and those people having a much weaker moral compass, rather than them being full-blown sociopaths with no moral compass.
Or to put it in another way, even in people with a moral compass, if its a weak one, tribalism can override and even swith it off, so that even when faced with outreageous displays of what a normal person would feel is Unacceptable Evil they’ll take the side of Evil if their “tribe’s chiefs” are taking that side.
I think this justifies even more strongly your fear that this stuff spreads - a lot more people than just Sociopaths have both weak moral compasses (we live in an age were Society deems Wealth as the measure of the greatness of a person, not moral behaviour) and tribalist thinking is both more prevalent and more subtle.
Certainly that would explain how in some countries like the US there is still a majority (or at least a large minority) of people justifying and even supporting (usually by parroting “Hamas, Hamas, Hamas”) the mass murdering of Palestinian children by Israel.
See! Exactly how I think! So I basically landed among crazy people in that other post. And clearly its a touchy subject because I just realized that my post here could be interpreted either way…but instead of interpreting it as I am a good moral person who thinks innocent gaza people should not be murdered and Ukrainian people should also not be murdered, I get down votes!
Or maybe I landed again among crazy people?
Are you:
- Inebriated and confused
- A victim of what seems to be a fediverse bug that has cropped up in the past 2 days or so where comments are ending up in completely the wrong place
- the worst propaganda redirection bot ever programmed/hired
Those people were almost as confused as me with respect to Palestine/Gaza.
Me, I’m with Gretta. Israel is demolish the Gaza strip along with its people regardless of who they may be. It’s just awful.
Meanwhile the people in the other post appear to also think that Israel should stop murdering innocent people… But Russia should own Ukraine. WTF. Just confused.
If only people cared for their own countries and people as they did foreign ones
Yes, if only the US cared about its own country
Yes, that’s the problem with the world: people aren’t Nationalistic enough.
The general populace of the US and UK ignoring horrendous foreign policy is what enabled this genocide in the first place.
Those will get told: if you don’t like it, leave!
“I’m insufferable, and always questioning if people like me, because deep down I don’t like myself. I must justify my isolation in both my community and myself by pretending that it is both the right way to live both as an individual and a community, because to acknowledge otherwise makes all the dark thoughts I thought I got rid of swell up out of my control. I am very smart.” - you
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Why did people stop liking her?
She went from vague calls to action on climate to root cause analysis. The root causes didn’t like that.
Basically because she was a child and their egos were hurt that a child would dare to criticize them.
Older people didn’t like a kid telling them they destroyed the world through selfish ideals.
Propaganda.
Personally I find she falls in to the category of people who protest things we already know are bad. So I think all she does is self-promote and accomplish nothing. I don’t disagree with her on any of the things she chooses to fight for, but I think she chooses the least effectual way to fight.
Great, she’s shown the IDF are a bunch of cunts who are preventing aid reaching Gaza. We knew that. What’s changed? IMO all she’s done is move the camera lenses from Gazans onto her for a while.
