• altphoto@lemmy.today
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    11 hours ago

    I was just looking at another post showing a picture/drawing with north Korean and ruzzian soldiers smiling happy together. OMG I got blind sided by the fellows there. Looks like at least some of the posters were ruzzian and I had no clue. I ended up blocking a few. How can they be so confused as to what reality is?

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      11 hours ago

      so did you just decide to comment about that post on whatever next post you saw, or did you pick this one for any reason in particular?

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        Yeah I’m confused.

        1. Israel is evil now
        2. bad people do or did live in Gaza but Innocent people should not be sacrificed.
        3. ruzzia is an asshole doing the same to Ukraine.

        But…there the ruzzians also think Israel is evil? At least the ones on that post. So I’m just confused.

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            Yeah, I don’t understand what happens in a person’s brain to not have a default of “invading someone and killing their people is inexcusable”

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              It’s called being a Sociopath With No Morals.

              Lots of those have been crawling out of the woodworks and taking sides entirely based on the politicians from their favored political force taking that side, showing us that they have no Principles and Morals of their own whatsoever or at least that their own inate sense of Good and Evil is so weak that even the mass murder of civilians (including thousands of babies and tens of thousands of children) is less important to them than following the leader of their political tribe.

              Any half-way decent human being looks at this and judges it based on the character of the actions that are being commited, and giving that it includes purposefully murdering children (to the point of literally executing them using snipers) its so morally powerful that most people are unable to not have a reaction of revulsion, but Amoral Sociopaths have no emotional reaction to even the murder of children and hence couldn’t care less about that aspect of this situation, hence will just not understand “what’s all the fuss about it” and/or just mindlessly “follow the leader” on it since the part of a normal human being’s character that would be shouting for them to defend the victims and stop the aggressors, does not exist in such people.

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                Its unfortunate that the way our brains process ingroup and outgroup perceptions leads to such depravity spilling out of what we’d consider those who are true sociopaths into the thoughts and actions of every day people. The bug in the code of human cognition that is social identity theory is essentially dehumanization, the creation of facism, and genocide.

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                5 hours ago

                Yes exactly! That moral compass was just not there. I’m afraid of this stuff spreading. What a terrible future that would be if I could not expect sympathy from a passersby if I had just been hit by a car or fallen from a ladder.

                Yet, even now, brown people are being kidnapped by the people who are supposed to defend our country… And nobody around defends from the kidnappers. We are afraid.

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                  In all fairness, I think it’s a mix of what @[email protected] wrote and those people having a much weaker moral compass, rather than them being full-blown sociopaths with no moral compass.

                  Or to put it in another way, even in people with a moral compass, if its a weak one, tribalism can override and even swith it off, so that even when faced with outreageous displays of what a normal person would feel is Unacceptable Evil they’ll take the side of Evil if their “tribe’s chiefs” are taking that side.

                  I think this justifies even more strongly your fear that this stuff spreads - a lot more people than just Sociopaths have both weak moral compasses (we live in an age were Society deems Wealth as the measure of the greatness of a person, not moral behaviour) and tribalist thinking is both more prevalent and more subtle.

                  Certainly that would explain how in some countries like the US there is still a majority (or at least a large minority) of people justifying and even supporting (usually by parroting “Hamas, Hamas, Hamas”) the mass murdering of Palestinian children by Israel.

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                    Yeah I hope things calm down a little around here. And then a little more. But that’s just hope. We need kids to take over with new ways of thinking.

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            See! Exactly how I think! So I basically landed among crazy people in that other post. And clearly its a touchy subject because I just realized that my post here could be interpreted either way…but instead of interpreting it as I am a good moral person who thinks innocent gaza people should not be murdered and Ukrainian people should also not be murdered, I get down votes!

            Or maybe I landed again among crazy people?

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      11 hours ago

      Are you:

      1. Inebriated and confused
      2. A victim of what seems to be a fediverse bug that has cropped up in the past 2 days or so where comments are ending up in completely the wrong place
      3. the worst propaganda redirection bot ever programmed/hired
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        11 hours ago

        Those people were almost as confused as me with respect to Palestine/Gaza.

        Me, I’m with Gretta. Israel is demolish the Gaza strip along with its people regardless of who they may be. It’s just awful.

        Meanwhile the people in the other post appear to also think that Israel should stop murdering innocent people… But Russia should own Ukraine. WTF. Just confused.