Well, and there’s surveillance from the client’s side, meaning connecting to the network will be unsafe for your social rating. If you accidentally connect to the network for even a second, you’re done.

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    They already did. Cloudflare is basically owning the net right now. And google. So, murica.

    Not even speaking about the majority of OSs people use. Windows, android, iOS…

    What exactly are you expecting that isn’t already there?

    Even the EU is about to cave in with “chat-control”.

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      and all because trump ripped the mask off and people got too uppity when they saw the live streaming genocide from gaza.

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    Mass surveilance already exists, and does so in ways the user isn’t going to realize. If it becomes so overt that people legitimately aren’t using the internet, even though it’s a critical function for the continued circulation of capital in the modern age with huge-scale production, then the system will either rectify that by returning to the less overt way or will collapse.

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        Why would they? Capitalism built up this system because it serves capital, destroying the system built to generate as much profit as possible is like building a house, living in it for a while, then demolishing it. Why? Now, capitalism is unsustainable, but what instead we see is desparation from capitalists to preserve it. That’s what fascism is, the violent affirmation of the existing system. Capitalists aren’t Marvel villians. They’re real, with real drives for their real crimes.

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          You’ve seen how digital IDs are being introduced in the UK without people’s consent? What will you say when this happens across Europe, then in the US and other countries, again without people’s consent?

          They need power for the sake of even more power, because there is nothing higher… This, in my opinion, is an excellent explanation of what the hell is going on.

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            Yes, digital IDs aren’t there to induce collapse, it’s just a bit more overt information control. No, capitalists don’t seek power for more power, power is sought for its ability to facilitate profits. One-liners aren’t true because they sound cool, but because they have attachment to material reality, and the reality of capitalism is that it selects for those capitalists that best obtain the most profits.

            As the rate of profit has a tendency to fall, this needs to be countered by raising absolute profits, which means expansion and accumulation continuously. Control can help facilitate this, but it can also backfire, it was the intense control of colonialism that brought the end of colonialism by inciting national backlash. The same is happening with capitalist imperialism, the global south is reacting against the underdevelopment pushed on it from imperialism.

            You need to analyze why systems function and where they are heading, please stop focusing on a Marvel-style good vs evil framing. That’s not how reality functions.

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        By implanted neuralink chips in every newborn, with centralized gov servers.

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        One or two companies are going to influence governments so much they’re practically gonna write laws themselves. Probably Apple or Meta. Luckily, this will likely only affect the US because our government likes to spy on us too much and will bow down to these companies.

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    That’s fine. I’ll make my own internet. With blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the internet!

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        i used to love visiting computer labs and internet cafe’s because people would always put games on them by carrying floppy disks around with the games one them.

        “line wars” is the one that i saw the most often and i loved fucking with the game’s AI

        i was introduced to porn through a floppy disk that i found on the ground at one of the laboratories too. lol

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        Yep, same. Well I actually remember finding the best ways to copy a game on a tape error free first. Some, without protection you could just save back to tape for a digital reproduction (and this also allowed tape to disk conversion). Actually those with non destructive copy protection could kinda be copied too if you knew a little Z80 ASM. Others, you needed to copy tape to tape and hope the quality turned out OK.

        But yes, then bringing your box of copied disks (Amiga in my case) into school and swapping with your friends was the way to go.