I see all the memes about guillotines for the rich, funny in spirit, but actually building one in the town square is not practical. They take a ton of materials, they are huge, and they do not even work reliably. Would it not make more sense to build one from metal with hydraulic pistons or something? I am not a machinist, but a more mobile unit you could wheel into a square to decapitate a few effigies seems about as effective for sending a message, and easier to remove or relocate if needed.
If it’s about sending a message, then the item itself is the conveyor of the message, not an unrecognizable but more efficient substitute. The guillotine is a recognisable symbol of people rising up and seizing power from the criminal ruling class. It is a warning and a threat.
If you plan on actually executing people, then sure - optimize all you want, or just go with a bullet to the brain.
But as a symbol, the guillotine is powerful.
Let’s not encourage the troll. Sure there are certain people that it won’t hurt my feelings at all if they suddenly stop living, but at the same time I don’t agree with the death penalty, I think that just makes the executioner just as evil, if not moreso, than the person getting their head lopped off.
Death no good yo.
That’s a nice sentiment. But an unrealistic one. Be the bigger man riding his high horse down the high road after we win. These people kill us every day. With the police. Via social murder. Deaths of despair. Poiaon food and water. All their fault. An intentional policy choice.
If we have to kill them to win. Then they gotta go.
Makes about as much sense as fucking for virginity or killing for peace. I’m not buying either of those ideas.
It must be nice, living in a fantasy world where good people win because they’re good and the bad guys get to sit in jail for being bad.
I would love it if we lived in an ideal world where everyone plays by the rules.
I am not naive enough to think we live in that world.
Meh, I’ve been threatened multiple times by crazy people, even cops.
I’ve found that staying chill and just walking away from crazies has successfully prevented me from getting a bullet to the head.
Two wrongs never make a right. Kill them with calm kindness. Just walk away, don’t contribute to the violence.
Feel free to turn a blind eye to reality, not all of us are priveleged enough to do so.
I’ve seen discussions about the future of automation where people speculate “what will rich people do with the general population when they’re no longer necessary to keep industry running for them?”
Opening up the “let’s just kill the people we don’t like and don’t want as part of society” box seems like a bad idea in a context like that.
It’s already open. They are kidnapping people from their homes and work and sending them to die in foreign concentration camps. It’s already here. They’re already doing it.
I’m not turning a blind eye to reality at all. I totally get it, life itself is a risk.
I’m 43 years old, and have enough common sense to not agitate crazy people. I’ve had my share of crazy experiences to know, that being chill is way better and safer than sinking to their level of violence.
That’s a totally different situation. They’re past threatening. They’ve already started the violence. The president raped children and his followers are throwing people into concentration camps. And your solution is “just walk away”? What the fuck is wrong with you.
I’m against the death penalty because I don’t believe it should be necessary in a just world, nor should the state ever be trusted with that kind of power.
However, I see the guillotine as symbolizing the last resort in an unjust world. The worst monsters in society commit their injustices in broad daylight, and nothing will be done about it. We know that justice will never be served through the courts. So what then?
Other options are available besides death. Like, lock the 34x felon up in prison, like they should have already done…
They should have. But they won’t.
Interesting.
I say they should have locked him up, I get downvoted.
You agree, he should have been locked up, you get upvoted.
I don’t give a fuck about the actual vote count, that doesn’t matter. But the differential of votes for two people that expressed the same opinion, the fucker should have been locked up, well that dumbfounds me.
You’re getting downvoted because you’re saying we should do something that clearly will never be done. He ain’t been locked up yet despite a laundry list of crimes and convictions.
When justice becomes a joke, people will eventually take it into their own hands, for better or worse.
And by all means, if that’s what needs to be done, I already said it won’t hurt my feelings. I just choose not to participate in such a way. My late father was a weapons engineer, amongst other skills and trades. I shot myself in the arm when I was only 3.
So I choose to be a non-violent person, because I know what it’s like to be shot. Life ain’t a game, nor should it be treated as such. We should all be here trying to help each other, not this bullshit we got going on today…
There are people at the top who have the power to make things better for everyone but choose the furthest from that. They do direct harm to so many people with no accountability. To deny them of their lives would be showing them the respect that they show to others. It’s the least we could all do.
Yeah man, but there’s what should be, and what is. Things are fucked. And unfortunately the people fucking everything up aren’t going anywhere peacefully.
It’s cause yours comes off as more optimistic whereas the other comes off as more realistic. Like, as a recent example, Diddy should have gotten a life sentence or even at least 20 years in prison, but he only got 4 and at most he might serve like 1-2. Seeking justice through the proper channels in this world doesn’t work and won’t work till we destroy everything and rebuild even if the road to get there is paved in blood.
And I choose to not participate in a world of violence (save for self defense or defense of my family or friends). I’d rather be helpful than harmful, like I’d rather carry groceries upstairs for elderly people rather than looking for a reason to shoot someone because they talk with a weird accent.
Did you miss the part where I’m pointing out the fact that it won’t happen? I’m not agreeing with you, I’m making a point.
Did I miss your username? No.
Are you here with intent on causing trouble? I’m not.
You’re just here dividing people, are you from Russia per chance
I’m here making a point, and you’re willfully ignoring that point to pretend I agree with you.
They are already the executioners. The guillotine is all about executing the executora
I’m not gonna stop ya, go ahead and build it and do it…
I just won’t be participating.
Not stopping is participating so you’re just as bad as us, Friend. Thats half the battle
By your interpretation of participation, anything you do, or do not do, is still participating.
You lost the game.
Troll is a matter of perspective and in this situation you are the troll so what were you saying again
I reject the idea of beheading, and somehow I’m the bad guy?
Well you have a nice day too, and accept that you’re cool with people getting their heads chopped off.
Less people is the answer not more people.