So you expect them to trash their career? This isn’t a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.
They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.
That’s how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it’s illegal but not that illegal, oh now it’s illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don’t do it, oh now I’m too deep, fast forward two years and you’re torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.
I get all that. I agree. All I’m saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we’ll see how that plays when time’s up.
My best friend from high school did a few years in the Army, the rest was with the Guard. Not sure how it all works, then or now, but that got him to 20-years and retirement benefits.
You have to do 20 years active for the full retirement. 20 years guard means you get retirement when you turn 55 or whatever. Unless you get medically retired and such.
That’s something trump and his people have never understood.
They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn’t gonna be a temporary thing, he’s pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it’s just pissing them off.
He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.
Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you’re going to pull some shit.
It’s really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they’re comically inept
Honestly (and this is a personal opinion) with the view i have of people in general, they just need to spoil them the last 6 months before the election for them to forget all about all this and become loyal. Then as soon as the elections are done it is no longer needed till the next time.
Why spend all that money over the entire period when just the last few minutes are enough to change people’s mind.
You don’t even have to spoil them. People believed the last lie when he said he gave them the biggest raise ever when it was the normal annual COL adjustment and then claim you’re spending the money screwing over blue states.
All these people they keep photographing look quite displeased.
Not displeased enough to not be there.
So you expect them to trash their career? This isn’t a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.
They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.
no, I guess it’s too much to ask of the National Guard to guard the nation
land of the free, home of the brave lol…
Yes.
You typing this from prison? It’s easy to sit in your house and say shit like that. Nothing is stopping you.
Their orders have absolutely broken that vow.
Yet. Let’s see what they do when their orders do violate the constitution.
A buck says 99.9% of them will still be okay with it.
That’s how authoritarianism wins every time. Do you expect people to resist? Careers, retirements, bonuses, if not them it will be someone else, this is not illegal just immoral, oh now it’s illegal but not that illegal, oh now it’s illegal but my boss would yell at me if I don’t do it, oh now I’m too deep, fast forward two years and you’re torturing last members of opposition in your newly built concentration camp and wondering not how it went so deep so fast, but when is the lunch and will you be able to torture enough people to get a good evaluation this month.
I get all that. I agree. All I’m saying is that these troops have not broken any laws, have not violated the Constitution. Trump can only deploy them in DC for 30-days, we’ll see how that plays when time’s up.
I think I can answer that already
While you’re right, it is also the national guard so it’s a supplemental/part-time job and not the primary job for a lot of them.
My best friend from high school did a few years in the Army, the rest was with the Guard. Not sure how it all works, then or now, but that got him to 20-years and retirement benefits.
You have to do 20 years active for the full retirement. 20 years guard means you get retirement when you turn 55 or whatever. Unless you get medically retired and such.
I wondered about that. But he got some sort of deal at 39, which would be 20 years combined Army and Guard. He joined in 1989. Things different then?
Imagine being under 40 and thinking you’ll be allowed to retire…
That’s something trump and his people have never understood.
They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn’t gonna be a temporary thing, he’s pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it’s just pissing them off.
He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.
Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you’re going to pull some shit.
It’s really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they’re comically inept
Honestly (and this is a personal opinion) with the view i have of people in general, they just need to spoil them the last 6 months before the election for them to forget all about all this and become loyal. Then as soon as the elections are done it is no longer needed till the next time.
Why spend all that money over the entire period when just the last few minutes are enough to change people’s mind.
You don’t even have to spoil them. People believed the last lie when he said he gave them the biggest raise ever when it was the normal annual COL adjustment and then claim you’re spending the money screwing over blue states.
If you want some fascist stormtroopers then just pulling the NG won’t get you that. But that’s what they’re trying to groom ice into.
Doubt Trump ever watch CPGrey’s video about the keys to power.
“I just joined for the free college and cheap health insurance but now they got me defending a facist regime”