• cley_faye@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      As long as owning a device that allow full E2E encryption without spyware isn’t illegal.

      It bears repeating a lot of time : the technology to circumvent these things exist, and will continue to exist. However, there’s nothing preventing obtuse lawmakers from making it illegal to own. And then, it’s just a matter of catching someone and finding some rooted android phone in his pocket.

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      Your OS doesn’t, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.

      And no, you can’t convince them to switch messager, I tried.

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        Currently, I, my entire Family and everyone I know use Signal. And everyone that doesn’t want to, can contact me via Matrix or XMPP, which literally no one ever does, even thought I know a lot of IT and CS people. I keep them as options regardless, just to offer them to people.

        I mean, there is also phone, SMS and email of course, but people seem to prefer a new messenger over actually contacting me in any of these ways. And then I’m always like “look, you can choose one of countless ways to contact me, if you like none of them, that’s a you-problem”.

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        You don’t have to say everything on those apps, tho, just do basic stuff and for longer convos request an encrypted chat app.

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        12 hours ago

        I, at least, managed to get most of my family to switch. I told them it was the only way they’d get pictures and updates of my son. The one small victory I’m satisfied with.

      • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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        And no, you can’t convince them to switch messager, I tried.

        Have you used the gambling addiction and honeypot comparisons?

        Or opium smoking in China one?

        If somebody makes a functioning NOSTR client similar to Telegram in experience - maybe that will be convenient enough.

    • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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      And what do you think that means the moment your OS connects to, oh I don’t know, the rest of the fucking planet?