• moakley@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    we don’t have the time to do our chores

    You also don’t have to cobble your own shoes or darn your only pair of socks.

    It isn’t a serious perspective to say that medieval peasants had it better than anyone in a first world country today.

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      Genuinely, I think your examples are negatives

      I love the act of creation. I love molding the world around me. I would rather fix my shoes and repair my shirts than have shitty, unrepairable clothes made from plastic that just dissolve after a couple years

      I think the connection between you and your personal things is good when it’s a long relationship of maintenance and restoration. I think it’s horrible when it’s short and replaceable

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        Then why don’t you? There is literally nothing stopping you from doing that.

        Your clothing probably isn’t made of plastic. It’s probably made of cotton. If you’re buying unrepairable clothing that’s a choice you made, since I think all of my clothing is repairable and it wasn’t purchased with that intention.

        I know why I don’t spend my time patching holes in my hand made underwear: it would be uncomfortable, and it would take more of my time than a 5 pack of underwear costs.

        We didn’t invent all this stuff because we’re stupid. We invented it because owning one pair of pants for your adult life is just absolutely miserable.

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          I’m literally wearing a shirt from a decade ago right now. It is made of 100% cotton, and the underarms have ripped recently

          Why? Because my more recent clothing dissolved we when I tugged at them gently. Just fucking fell apart, not even at the seams, just tore like paper

          So I practice on the plastic bullshit so I can sew up the cotton when I need to

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            again, that’s a choice you made… you can make your own clothes out of linen and the tools to do it are more available to you because they’re not hand crafted, but you choose not to because you want to save time

            heck, you can buy a shirt that’s 5x the price that will last but you choose the cheap shirt so you can have 5 of them

            this is the same argument that we don’t build the coliseum any more and therefor we’re not as good at making concrete as ancient romans… modern society is built on engineering, and engineering doesn’t build things that lasts 2000 years that’s true, but that’s not what engineering is for

            engineering isn’t about building bridges that don’t fall down: engineering is about building bridges that barely stand up so you can have more of them

            the same goes with clothes… modern clothes aren’t made to last your entire life because they’d cost 5x more… people don’t actually want a shirt from their 20s when they’re 70 - people don’t even really want a shirt from their 20s when they’re 30! they want 5 shirts in their 20s and 5 more in their 30s, and they want to be unique and personal and they want to spend no time to acquire them

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            16 days ago

            I actually don’t believe you. Like I don’t think your shirt fell apart like that, and I don’t think you bought a plastic shirt.

            Fabric lasting a long time isn’t odd. I’ve got a synthetic fabric gym bag from 20 years ago that’s fine. I’ve got a 10 year old synthetic blend shirt that’s never had an issue. I’ve got cotton shirts in the same range.

            Synthetic fibers tend to be more expensive, and are more durable for the fabric weight. It’s why they use them for safety equipment.

            You’re acting like none of us are familiar with clothes. Where are you buying disintegrating shirts, and why ? I’ve never encountered that and I’ve been wearing clothing for quite a while. I’ve only had any type of clothing tear like that if it snags on something like a nail.

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        Then you can get that with technology. Because where computer stuff is concerned, we’re still cobbling our own pi-holes and smart home setups.

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          16 days ago

          I agree. I think personal mastery over your devices is a wonderful thing. Even when ephemeral - if you transfer a concept from device to device, I think that’s beautiful