• Lumisal@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Porn is definitely unhealthy

    Look at all the countries which block / ban porn.

    Now look at women’s rights in those same countries.

    I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.

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      Correlation does not equal causation. Also if you really think women undressing and doing porn for the pleasure of the men is somehow liberating of makes them free, I don’t think you actually care about women as people. So many of them end up doing this kind of thing because they need money and stuff and never wanted to do it in the first place.

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        So many of them end up doing this kind of thing because they need money and stuff and never wanted to do it in the first place.

        You just described most people doing most jobs.

        Pretty sure most people wouldn’t work in whatever job they have if they didn’t need the money.

        Likewise, there’s many who likely prefer doing porn over working in fast food or retail. After all, in one you get demeaned, mistreated, even abused, and in the other you get to orgasm for money.

        Also if you really think women undressing and doing porn for the pleasure of the men

        Way to just say that women and LGBT+ don’t like porn.

        Says a lot more about you than anything else you’ve said, bigot.

        PS: when the correlation is extremely strong and repeatable, it usually implies causation. There’s already research that proves that link isn’t just correlation. Not that it seems you’re actually interested in data or good faith discussion.

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          You just described most people doing most jobs.

          If your job is honestly comparable to that of a reluctant sex worker, you really need to switch jobs.

          Pretty sure most people wouldn’t work in whatever job they have if they didn’t need the money.

          Likewise, there’s many who likely prefer doing porn over working in fast food or retail. After all, in one you get demeaned, mistreated, even abused, and in the other you get to orgasm for money.

          This is a completly wrong conceptualization. Porn “stars” often are often locked into filming increasingly extreme and often increasingly violent content. Many are left back traumatized for life.

          See, for example, this study.

          This article challenges the consumer-centric view of pornography, which overlooks the exploitation and abuse of individuals documented in its production. The lack of conceptual clarity surrounding the nature of pornography obscures these abuses, leading to significant consequences for those affecte

          Way to just say that women and LGBT+ don’t like porn.

          About 70% of consumers are men.

          when the correlation is extremely strong and repeatable, it usually implies causation. There’s already research that proves that link isn’t just correlation. Not that it seems you’re actually interested in data or good faith discussion.

          Op might or might not be, but i am. Please feel free to back up your claim with data.

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            If your job is honestly comparable to that of a reluctant sex worker, you really need to switch jobs.

            Spoken like someone who’s never struggled.

            This is a completly wrong conceptualization. Porn “stars” often are often locked into filming increasingly extreme and often increasingly violent content. Many are left back traumatized for life.

            This isn’t the 90s. OnlyFans creators aren’t beholden to an agency, which the paper you linked to mentions about.

            About 70% of consumers are men.

            30% is still pretty damn big, especially in context of how many human adults there are. That’s still a potential of over a billion people by rough estimate based off a set of 4 billion.

            Please feel free to back up your claim with data.

            Looking through the comments here, it seems you already have been, but still don’t care.

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        There’s literally research done on that & it only means porn for men will get banned.