• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      They only seek to regulate capital as much as their megacorp and billionaire donors wish. The “Overton Window” has nothing to do with it.

      Further, if both parties serve capital, then we have democracy for capital, not for the people.

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          There are no “democratic socialist” countries. Democratic Socialism is a descriptor for reformist socialism, the closest we got was Salvador Allende in Chile. Socialism isn’t just “social programs,” socialism refers to a mode of production where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, ie the large firms and key industries. The Nordic countries are Social Democracies, welfare capitalism essentially.

          The Nordic Countries have the large safety nets they do largely due to proximity with the USSR, who was the first to dramatically expand their safety nets. Combined with millitant labor organizing, these concessions in other countries forced the bourgeoisie’s hand. The problem is that these social safety nets in the global north are funded through imperialism, vast extraction from the global south.

          The Overton Window has nothing to do with it. The system is dominated by capitalists, the only way to get even a fraction of what the workers want is through millitant organizing and running our own parties like PSL, the only way to actually get socialism is through revolution.

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              No, the large majority understand the difference between democratic socialism and social democracy. The Nordics don’t call themselves socialist, because they aren’t.

              Further, socialism is extremely relevant. The PRC is Socialist, and is the world’s largest economy and industrial power. Support for collectivizing the economy is growing in the west, even if absolute numbers are still low. Socialism remains the only way to move on.

              Revolution did not “kill millions of people,” in all major socialist countries life expectancy increased by 50%-100%, infant mortality plumetted, and poverty dramatically reduced. Revolution has proven to be the only way to genuinely democratize the economy and establish socialism, when you try to do that within a liberal capitalist framework like in Chile, you get couped by the US Empire.

              You’d do well to join an org like the aforementioned PSL, reading theory and history books are also helpful.

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              It’s a failed experiment that killed millions and it won’t work this time either.

              Better give the USA back to the British Crown then, dumb-ass.

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      No they want to appear to regulate capital. Most of the time they don’t actually want to regulate it. Yes they won’t be as overt as to do the massive wealth transfers they the republicans do . But they will. Who was president in 08 ? Who continued to dump money into our military contracts despite running as anti war?

      Like yeah the parties are different domestically but foreign policy wise the outcomes are usually the same.