Q Anon was a social psychological operation used to create the human trafficking operation America is pulling off right now. They got people to think they were fighting against trafficking but in reality they were being used as a tool in creating americas current trafficking system.
Manipulated to funnel support and votes. Played out misunderstanding the psychological battlefield we are all in.
It was all part of the coup. The same social tactics America uses to manipulate other countries they used on their own people.
Maybe the enemy here is bigger than left and right politics.
Divide Et Impera will never not be an effective control method. Keep the Basics arguing amongst themselves, and they’ll never have the time to pay attention to the ones pulling the strings in the background.
Edit: this is not to say that the heinous shit espoused by some people is in any way excusable. We may be pitted against each other in this Left/Right divide, but one side is clearly more monstrous than the other, even when accounting for extremists on both.
I agree with that to some degree, I just can’t stop thinking that there’s something bigger happening thats above politics.
Oh, no doubt! This mess is perfect for somebody’s business! Money has been and will continue to be more powerful and more important than politics in this, our Capitalist hellscape. Hiding in plain sight.
It would be nice if it were above politics. But what you’re attributing to nefarious deeds… is literally what politics is. Power players trying to leverage anything they can to accumulate as much influence as possible. Sometimes these come in the form of scheming plans, but more often than not it’s just manipulating any convenient happenstance that falls at their feet.
Have you seen the documentary Century of Self. It’s about the government and marketing starting to use psychology and how it manipulates society.
It makes me think about data mining, gps, and surveillance. Even credit card usage can give you ads on your phone. Devices listen. The possibility for manipulating society and basically becoming it’s master is there and is actually the game being played. Now look at it this way… When theres someone living off rhythm to society they can be targeted and manipulated pretty much from all avenues. This is what’s behind the gangstalking “conspiracy”… But to discredit the reality of that the stalking is real the “conspiracy” is littered with talk about aliens and directed energy weapons. So when people start realizing they are “gangstalked”, if they don’t have a strong enough head on their shoulders they believe it because while all the other attributes have happened to them and they know those events were real, they see all this purposely spread false info of aliens and bullshit specifically marketed to make them look crazy. For some people it works on them because they don’t understand the psychology behind social manipulation. And people can be smart with American dream success and still be victims.
Idk I’m going off…
Here’s the documentary if your interested. https://youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s
Remember when they were convinced that JFK Jr was going to rise from the grave to champion their cause?
Definitely unrelated to a typo about RFK Jr for a community of anti-vax morons.
Explaining your downvotes: “Bigger than left and right politics” how is Q Anon even slightly related to left-wing politics, or even enlightened centrism? It’s 100% far-right politics.
I just meant it’s bigger than politics in general.
It’s literally right wing politics.
Psy op implies an amount of planning and the involvement of the military or the intelligence community. I think it is better attributed to chance that the cryptic pretentious musings of one person snowballed into a cultish internet movement. Because it garnered strength online, the musing person at the heart of it probably changed due to tiny power struggles.
People like to know there is a plan for everything. People always suspect a secret cabal behind everything. People are also dumb and impressionable. It doesn’t take a general or CIA buffin to try to target the Venn diagram of those three groups. I think it had the results you describe, it contributed to what we see in the US today: a weakening of the rule of law and a slide into fascism.
Calling QAnon psy op is giving what basically started as a 4chan meme too much credit. If no one took a gun to find a nonexistent basement in a DC pizza restaurant, society at large may have never discovered this snowballed cult, and jumped on it like a cat does catnip, enlarging its reach. The secret “cabal” behind it is maybe a handful of people. Bored and slightly Machiavellian internet users with odd political views and/or the love of endorphin-inducing likes and reach. Never attribute to conspiracy what you can more likely attribute to stupidity. QAnon is stupid. Stupidity with disastrous cobsequences. But not a planned psy op campaign.
I think that’s part of the psyop though. Creating situations that no matter what always look crazy. It’s just the way it is and it’s impossible to tell because the people that may have experienced it look crazy on purpose.
So it’s like I know what your saying… And that’s logical but the entire point of the psyop is to make create that logic. And I know that makes me sound crazy because that’s the point of the psyop.
The issue with the line of thinking you’re espousing is that without evidence, you’re suggesting a more complicated cause than simple chance.
Like yes, it is possible that somebody or some group lined all of these things up in advance, but it’s also entirely possible that there’s a ton of noise out there on the internet and that those with nefarious interests just signal boost the noise that benefits them.
Think of all the millions of random schizo-posters out there. You just pick whichever makes the right sounds and boost them. No need to invent the crazy when there’s crazy on tap.
Let’s not call it psy op then. We need a new term. BS op maybe?
The real psy-op was the billions they made along the way
It’s the red-pill movement. Everything since Gamergate. The endless videos of Jordan Peterson coinciding with Joe Rogan’s tilt to propaganda. Andrew Tate, certified rapist, Sex Trafficker and disgraced MMA combatant. Pushing the idea of individualism and hyper-masculinity. In order to normalise misogyny in young men. Incels, 8Chan and influencers in that sphere have always been disproportionately shown to men, especially young men. It’s part of Curtis Yarvin’s "Dark Enlightenment.’ Dude writes like a 15 year old on Myspace, but the tech billionaires worship him like a prophet. He directly takes credit for even naming the movement. It’s all to spread disinformation and divide the public. Stop us meeting in public and having discussions, just look what Just Eat, Uber, Doordash and all those food apps have done to restaurants as a communal meeting place. Tech, or more precisely those that use tech to damage the social fabric. Want you anxious, alone antisocial and completely dependent on their “services” because they’re all on your phone.
Hm i though it was common knowledge at this point
Well this isn’t c/unpopularopinion
People are allowed to independently discover their showerthoughts!
Oh sorry i didn’t mean it like that :(
Ron Watkins. He slipped up and outed himself in a documentary: https://www.vice.com/en/article/q-accidentally-outed-himself-but-qanon-followers-dont-care/
I highly recommend the documentary: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14215442/
It wasn’t started by him though, he just took over the account and exploited it for his personal benefit. The person behind the original account is far more interesting.
The documentary suggests it may have been Mike Flynn, which of course would support the direct connection between Trump/Russia and qanon.
You’re totally right I forgot about that part. That’s absolutely covered in the doc.
I believe I’ve seen it. But I think he was played out and extorted.
it was mostly created by russia, or at least backed by it. they help foment the conspiracies in magat echo chambers and it became mainstream. back a couple years ago, like '23 conservatives were wondering why they were being called magats all the time.
You probably think the DNC leaks were russia too 🥴🤡
Fuck, it looks like Reddit is leaking again.
Relax bish, Ive been here for months Lemm.ee just closed their host server so I had to remake my account on another lemmy instance
JFC it started on 4chan. How anyone thinks it is anything other than a troll that caught on baffles me.
