• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    This statement from Trump is unsurprisingly disinformation. Most people interpret “nuclear sites” as nuclear bombs instead of completely legal power stations for civilian infrastructure.

    Please don’t recite this disinformation uncritically. That’s just recycling propaganda.

    Instead it’s worth emphasizing that the zio regime actually has rogue nukes and is using them to threaten the planet with a nuclear holocaust. That’s the actual problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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      7 hours ago

      I mean, most of it is enriching, by the sound of it, and they’ve been doing that far beyond any civilian application. As a negotiating tactic, to date, per America’s own intelligence.

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      To be fair, Iran wants a nuke down the line, and civilian uranium enrichment is a huge stepping stone. There’s lots of technical alternatives they could pursue if they really just want civilian power.

      …And that’s kinda understandable. They have a neighbor that randomly bombs their civilians.

      Fuck it, let them have one.

      Heck, they should get a tiny bit of old Soviet+US stock in some kind of international deal, so they have credible deterrence with the guaranteed stability+security mechanisms (and oversight?) of their weapons.

      (To be more specific, Cold War nukes typically have elaborate tiggers and failsafes meant to stop unauthorized parties from detonating them with any nuclear yield, and the old school Soviet and US systems are pretty good. Better for them to have that than an “insecure” home cooked design they waste money on, like the North Koreans allegedly have, IMO. On top of that, they’d have “known” detonation signatures, so if they ever go off everyone would know it’s Iran (defeating the fear of them “losing” a nuke to another party, or a false flag op against Iran)).

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        If that was true, they wouldn’t have cooperated with IAEA for years, and it was ne US that destroyed any chances for a peaceful deal.

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          Yes, and that was a cruel, stupid move on the US’s part.

          …But even if cooperation continued, it still would have given Iran expertise. Further enrichment is not a huge step, especially behind the cover of real civilian power programs, and given the rhetoric the state broadcasts and their neighbor’s hostility, it seems likely.

          And that’s fine IMO.

          I’m hugely afraid of proliferation, but going to these lengths to worry about it while the rest of the world burns seems ridiculous.

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            I’ve watched an hour long video on uranium enrichment once (one of the many times Satanyahoo cried wolf on Iran almost having nukes).
            It is most definitely a huge step and there are many other factors.
            It’s really complicated matter.
            I wish for them it wasn’t and that they get one.