• floo@retrolemmy.com
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    Bullshit.

    I have experienced depression relief from tripping on shrooms, but not for two fucking years afterwards

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      Man, every time someone posts science some has to go "Nuh uh! I have data (n=1) that says otherwise!

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        True but this research itself also only has a 28 sample size, and respond rate is only about half too.

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        Not according to the claims in this headline. Hence why I called bullshit.

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          Maybe occasionally open and rta:

          Summary: Psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms, might just revolutionize how depression and anxiety are treated in cancer patients. In a groundbreaking trial, a single dose combined with therapy significantly reduced emotional suffering, and these effects often lasted over two years. As follow-up studies expand the research to multiple doses and larger samples, scientists are eyeing a possible new standard of care that merges psychedelics with psychological support.

          • floo@retrolemmy.com
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            Yeah, there’s far too many “might”s and “possibly” in that quote for it to have been worth the click.

            Maybe this is just a shitty article with a shitty headline from a shitty publication, but I think I’d really rather see the science than here. Some idiots sales pitch summary for it.

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          This article will for sure leave some cancer patients feeling disappointed after tripping. I tried acid when I was 19 - everything I read told me it was going to be a life changing, eye opening, personality upgrading experience. Turns out it wasn’t, and I definitely felt a bit let down. Personally, I don’t think telling cancer patients shrooms will cure their depression is at all wise.

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            Your experience with psychedelics at the age of 19, while your brain was still developing, has no relevance to adults suffering from life-long ptsd and terminal cancer getting positive side effects from the drugs.

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                That may or may not happen. There’s no need to be a dick and take away what small bit of hope these results might offer people.

                Eta: I would feel the same way you do if this was some snake oil grift touting a one shot cure for cancer or something. This, however, is just offering a slight mitigation of depressive symptoms related to the actual disease.

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              Sounds like someone who reads this article probably would too. Which is why it’s a dumb article.

              Is it possible to benefit? For sure.

              Will YOU, the average cancer patient, benefit for 2 years? Probabaly not.

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            I would imagine it’s like any other treatment, in that it works for some, not for others.

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      Psilocybin appears to rewire your brain. It has long been known that guided trips can have very long lasting benefits. This study includes therapy, which is critical for cementing the long term benefits of psilocybin treatment.

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        Yes, I only posted the summary, because I wondered how many critics would actually rta.

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      This is not the only study that points to lasting relief from depression. Your experience is valid, but also anecdotal and not necessarily representative at large.

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        The two-year claim is ridiculous, hence the ridicule. Even the article itself doesn’t really back up the headline. It’s Clickbait bullshit, and that’s why I called it out.

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          It is “up to two years”, naturally, as mentioned in the article. I do agree two years is a span that is most likely rarely achieved, but I also remember that a single dose can basically cure* people of PTSD, so I do believe some people might be free of depression for 24 months if they processed their trauma / issues in a significant manner.

          Please remember, studies that use psychedelics don’t simply hand psychoactive substances to people and send them away, they do receive assistance (e. g. therapy) to process whatever issue they might have.

          • again, along with therapy
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            Thank you for confirming, once again, that the headline is bullshit click bait, and the “promises“ in the article sound pretty bullshit too.

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              Gonna go out on a limb here and say you seem like you deal with pretty severe depression yourself, seeing as how you come off as a miserable prick. You might benefit from a good heroic dose of mushrooms.

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                You hurl childish name-calling and then make accusations of mental health problems.

                You don’t really seem to deal well with people you disagree with.

                I’m just gonna block you and move on. Like an adult.

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                I think it’s more an example that we’re all still different. I’ve taken a bunch of psychedelics, I got the messages about what I should do with my life, I havent been able to action those things which is frustrating. It leaves me in a spot where I’m not interested in psychedelics at the moment because at this point the messages are kind of spam.