They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.

  • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    …You are asking people who… willfully choose to be idiots to… do science?

    I mean, you do you, but at the point someone is willing to believe “the top scientists in the world are trying to get you killed” you might as well consider them lost, as they are ignoring elementary-level statistics.

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      2 days ago

      People are different and respond to the same message differently depending on the source. OP might have an in with their loved one and therefore a chance of changing their minds.

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        17 hours ago

        That’s a nice sentiment but no, it won’t work. If your family member rattles conspiranoia to your face, it means they already don’t care about you to enough a point to not only openly do that, but also they are probably unvaxxed and likely unmasked at the moment. Or every single time.

        At that point, they don’t care for you. Period.

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          16 hours ago

          Or they care about you and want you to “see the light”. Most people drinking the conspiracy kool-aid aren’t evil, just gullible and ignorant.