Offering at least one option that don’t include factory farmed food, that caused a lot of animal suffering in it’s production, should be the bare minimum.
“When I specifically go to a restaurant run by animal lovers and I can’t even get any dead animals from them, you shouldn’t be able to get food that didn’t harm animals in any restaurant!”
Wow. I guess there really are people who want to make it even harder to avoid causing cruelty, for no reason… Just why?
Well it depends. When it’s a decent restaurant, some vegetarian and vegan options would be nice.
But the big issue is the terror vegans demanding on the spot a vegan option when going to a grill room or steak house. Like, wtf did you expect.
My take usually, as a vegan, is call the restaurant a few days in advance (if it is planned like a family dinner or work thing) and ask if they can make me something vegan. If not, no problem, I will deal with it. They are always happy to make me something and are happy with me asking in advance so the chef has time to prepare. But I won’t even bother asking when it’s a business completely based on meat. Like you said, don’t ask for meat at a vegan venue. Goes both ways.
But when I go somewhere for dinner with friends who are vegan or have no issues with vegan food, we usually go to a vegan place or somewhere with a partial vegan menu.
But in the case of the original post, if you don’t like coffee, just order something else in France. They don’t mind if you order water or anything. Just don’t order coffee and ruin it with milk, real or fake. A latte is just making fun of French culture. Or added water, ‘Americano’ is a term invented during the second world war to make fun of Americans who are too pussy to drink coffee like you should.
i sometimes work with data from foodchains and it turns out they sell more if they have a vegan and vegetarian option. yet hardly anyone buys any of those products - customers just want to feel inclusive.
if vegan food would be good the vegans should easily be able to run restaurants. but it is just in some hip spots where ppl actually consune the vegan food.
so we asked a few hundred in a webform i had to make and 99.9% said they like that vegan is an option but ordered meat. i think the question was something like why vegan food was part of their reasoning to come here in the first place and most wrote to not exclude workbuddies.
as long as foods just immitate other food to be able to sell it (e.g. vegan doner or burgers) I wont eat it. if it is a good vegan dish…go.
Even with meat-based venues it depends. I went to a 1-star steak restaurant and we asked what they would do if someone asked for a vegan menu. They absolutely do accommodate it as long as they know in advance.
Though to be fair it’s a bit different than your average steakhouse
Lots of comments complaining about restaurants not being inclusive, but it’s unrealistic to expect others to bend to your needs.
I can’t go to a vegan joint and get upset when they don’t want to serve me a steak.
Nor can I het upset when a restaurant isn’t Halal.
If you want vegan, go to a place that sells vegan food.
Offering at least one option that don’t include factory farmed food, that caused a lot of animal suffering in it’s production, should be the bare minimum.
“When I specifically go to a restaurant run by animal lovers and I can’t even get any dead animals from them, you shouldn’t be able to get food that didn’t harm animals in any restaurant!”
Wow. I guess there really are people who want to make it even harder to avoid causing cruelty, for no reason… Just why?
Reactionnary are just evil
Well it depends. When it’s a decent restaurant, some vegetarian and vegan options would be nice.
But the big issue is the terror vegans demanding on the spot a vegan option when going to a grill room or steak house. Like, wtf did you expect.
My take usually, as a vegan, is call the restaurant a few days in advance (if it is planned like a family dinner or work thing) and ask if they can make me something vegan. If not, no problem, I will deal with it. They are always happy to make me something and are happy with me asking in advance so the chef has time to prepare. But I won’t even bother asking when it’s a business completely based on meat. Like you said, don’t ask for meat at a vegan venue. Goes both ways.
But when I go somewhere for dinner with friends who are vegan or have no issues with vegan food, we usually go to a vegan place or somewhere with a partial vegan menu.
But in the case of the original post, if you don’t like coffee, just order something else in France. They don’t mind if you order water or anything. Just don’t order coffee and ruin it with milk, real or fake. A latte is just making fun of French culture. Or added water, ‘Americano’ is a term invented during the second world war to make fun of Americans who are too pussy to drink coffee like you should.
i sometimes work with data from foodchains and it turns out they sell more if they have a vegan and vegetarian option. yet hardly anyone buys any of those products - customers just want to feel inclusive.
if vegan food would be good the vegans should easily be able to run restaurants. but it is just in some hip spots where ppl actually consune the vegan food.
so we asked a few hundred in a webform i had to make and 99.9% said they like that vegan is an option but ordered meat. i think the question was something like why vegan food was part of their reasoning to come here in the first place and most wrote to not exclude workbuddies.
as long as foods just immitate other food to be able to sell it (e.g. vegan doner or burgers) I wont eat it. if it is a good vegan dish…go.
This has ≈never happened.
Even with meat-based venues it depends. I went to a 1-star steak restaurant and we asked what they would do if someone asked for a vegan menu. They absolutely do accommodate it as long as they know in advance.
Though to be fair it’s a bit different than your average steakhouse
Latte is an Italian drink. In France it’s café au lait (or café crème in the south), which is generally a breakfast drink, served in a bowl-like cup.
Or go to Starbucks or McDonald’s, plenty of those in France too0