Sure, there are always outliers and you can correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s just the overall impression I have.

(I wasn’t sure if [email protected] or this community would fit better for this kind of question, but I assume it fits here.)

  • Deceptichum@quokk.au
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    7 days ago

    Huge strength.

    The alternative is Reddit or 4Chan if you want centrist or right wing takes. I know which of the 3 platforms I want.

    Seeing this place run by individuals with a commitment to creating a better social environment is also a huge plus. You wouldn’t get that under a non-leftist platform.

    • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      6 days ago

      “Left” or “Right” grouping is Western centric tho.

      From my perspective as Indonesian, it’s weird that Westerner lump politics into separate group instead working together for a solution that caters to everyone.

      • Deceptichum@quokk.au
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        6 days ago

        So you would say PDIP and Gerindra both represent the same thing?

        And I know for a fact you’se spent most of the mid 20th century killing “communists” in your borders. So there certainly was a left in Indonesia.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 days ago

        Maybe this will help: the left are the only ones that want to help everyone. The right wants to help themselves.

        • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          6 days ago

          I still don’t get actual “left” and “right” definition by Westerner.

          For example, people that support native people to be protected from encrouchment of their forest, as well as unmitigated immigration that will drive out them will considered both “left” and “right” side from Westerner.

          Some Westerner also often assume their solution of problem is “the best” while all I can see is further division of society.

          Please elaborate.

          • hono4kami@pawb.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            6 days ago

            Indonesian here too. Same I am as confused too. It makes political discourse here looks good

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            5 days ago

            I still don’t get actual “left” and “right” definition by Westerner.

            The vast majority of Westerners don’t even really know what “left” or “right” mean. It’s going to be really confusing to rely on Westerners to self-identify their political beliefs, because every liberal seems to think they’re a leftist.

            For example, people that support native people to be protected from encrouchment of their forest, as well as unmitigated immigration that will drive out them will considered both “left” and “right” side from Westerner.

            It helps if we frame this in a context of imperialism and colonialism.

            A refugee from Syria moving into Greece isn’t encroaching on anyone’s forests. That stands in stark contrast with a multinational corporation coming to DRC, clear cutting the forest, strip mining the mountains, poisoning the water, and paying pennies for labor.

            Some Westerner also often assume their solution of problem is “the best” while all I can see is further division of society.

            Absolutely. Any leftist in the West needs to spend their whole life unlearning their chauvinism.

            • nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 days ago

              The thing is, sometimes the immigrant are not corporate. They’re just groups of average people that cut all the protected forest to make a new home and uncontrolled killing of animals.

              They don’t respect local rules at all.

              This don’t really happen in the West, but it can happen in several parts of Asia or Africa.

              That’s why ethnocentrism ended prevalent in these area.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                3 days ago

                The global South has a right to protect its sovereignty from rich Western assholes coming in to scoop up cheap land to build their summer villas. Tourism is a factor of imperialist exploitation too.