• WraithGear@lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      When it’s needed. I don’t see a path that prevents tyranny or revolution, but that doesn’t mean there is none. You say that people should arm themselves, and i agree, the main difference being what we see as the threat i guess. But I take inspiration from the Black Panthers. I believe they were right and righteous in their actions, no matter what was taught in schools. And you know they were effective, because the state conspired against them and they got the NRA TO ARGUE FOR MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS because they have a certain power dynamic they want to uphold.

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        24 days ago

        I don’t remember the Black Panthers starting a guerilla war like what you’re advocating for.

        When is this guerilla war going to be “needed?”

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          I’m not saying a gorilla war is needed. I am saying collective action is needed.

          The reason i bring up gorilla warfare is because of the “there is no point in fighting tyranny because it’s too hard” argument. in the recent wars verses gorilla warfare and insurgency, it has been an absolute shit show boondoggle for the last 3 wars we have been in. And that is with the advantage of untouchable logistics, the world’s largest, and most secure, military industrial complex, top of the line weapons and training, and the homeland being unreachable.

          Either way it’s best if those we care about own and become proficient in fire arms.

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            You’re saying collective action with firearms is needed. Which, as I already showed, is probably doomed to failure.

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              You haven’t showed anything. You asserted. And i brought up the black panthers as the counter argument.

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                It was not a counter argument because the black panthers were not fighting back against a genocidal regime, which is what queer people are facing. If Jews marched around Nazi Germany with guns, they would have just been picked off by snipers from rooftops.

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                  Are you saying if the lgbtq community formed a militia and walked around american streets, they would be gunned down by snipers? We are not at that point yet, so a militia like the Black Panthers is needed. But if we are at the point where the government is sniping its citizens, then we would need an insurgency.

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                    If by, “we are not at that point yet,” you mean that it’s 1932 and Hitler is going to take power in two months and then it will be too late, sure.

                    then we would need an insurgency.

                    Then, as I said, it will be too late. There were plenty of insurgencies against the Nazis. They didn’t work.