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  • To clarify I listed here behaviors that I believe is common. I’m NOT listing behaviors that somebody privacy conscious is. That same person could around the neighborhood with a hoodie, glasses, hygiene mask just the same way.

    What I was trying to highlight wasn’t extreme behavior, one way or another, but rather typical ones.



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    See my earlier answers. I’m not justifying any of that infrastructure or behavior, only trying to highlight that this information, namely that OP is walking around the neighborhood, where and when, is already available to numerous of the actors including :

    • neighbors, just visually seeing him with their eyes
    • mobile operator via their 5G/4G towers
    • mobile OS via their positioning data
    • WiFi hotspots
    • ISP via WiFi hotspots
    • any app with geolocation tracking and any of their commercial partners purchasing that information
    • connected devices via BT scanning potentially sending back data to their manufacturer, assuming most are connected
    • governments with abilities to get information from ISP, mobile operators, mobile OS maintainers

    So… the question IMHO is : is there are NEW data with or without the camera network? I’d argue marginally more.






  • Ugh, hopefully they fix this. Or maybe then don’t and the whole glasses get banned, I’m fine with that.

    That being said, as I mentioned in my other answer building such glasses is pretty trivial. Sure it might not look as inconspicuous as the Meta ones (or at least popular… which might lead to people better identifying them in fact) but recording covertly is indeed now trivial.

    It’s wrong though and AFAIK in the EU at least it’s illegal without consent, you can’t publish the recording so the technical implementation is not really the problem, it’s the usage.

    If at any point it seemed like I justified the usage of such glasses for covert filming let me clarify : no, it’s wrong, regardless of how technically feasible it now is, without or without Meta.


  • In fine it is about the threat model, always.

    That being said I never said “I have nothing to hide” nor do I believe we as a society should accept the permanent surveillance of civilians. In fact I do believe the opposite and that the chilling effect, as highlighted here by OP, does have a toll on everyone.






  • there’s a good chance they’re smarter than you.

    Not really BUT they are definitely more specialized and have a lot more dedicated resources, including other dedicated people, who are paid to get information on you and your behavior. One does not have to be “smart” to excel in security compared to a normal user who cares very little.

    That being said, no matter how smart and how much resource they have, they also can’t break encryption. They can though ask a cop to come to your place and incarcerate your regardless. So… do with that what you will.



  • Written in jest and yet using CV at scale on GPUs initially used for LLMs make sense.

    Yet… why do so? As I wrote just minutes ago in https://lemmy.ml/post/41546700/23280257 there is already very high quality signal that requires nearly no compute : your wireless trace. Google/Apple and your mobile provider or ISP and thus the government hosting it already know 24/7 where you are, how active you are, etc solely from your 5G/4G signal. Well OK for activity it’s with the IMU but the point is this is basically computationally free.

    You move around,

    • your mobile phone scans for 5G signals,
    • login in a nearby tower via its SIM/eSIM
    • and voila, you are there. It’s basically few requests on some databases and it’s instantaneous.

    compare this with

    • your identity with facial features (lots of photo) is store in a large DB
    • there is no known location so a network of thousands if not millions of cameras have to be queried to try to match your facial features again the last frames, so that’s ~gigabytes of data to send somewhere or query all those cameras with setup locally
    • there is a match! then repeat this locally for the next cameras, maybe just hundreds
    • light change or hoodie on, no match, restart process

    this is ridiculously expensive to run. I’m not saying it can’t be done (it’s been done and it’s not hard to setup) but… WHY would one do so when the first setup works more reliably and is orders of magnitude cheaper?

    Obviously both can be combined but also both can be bypassed conveniently and extremely cheaply (leave your phone home, wear sunglasses and a hygiene mask) so even though a realistic scenario I’d argue it’s not rational to not just rely on what already works for the vast majority of situations.


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    You are right to be wary of that behavior as it is spreading.

    That being said I believe it’s good to be mindful of the “paranoid privacy nut” in the sense that… WHO are you concerned might have WHICH information about you?

    I don’t know you but… if I were to find your name I could find your address or at least roughly where you live. In fact depending on what you post one could potentially know your neighborhood without even knowing your name. Now I didn’t know you had a pet, now I do. That being said even without a pet… if you live somewhere you are expected to walk around your neighborhood. It might be to go buy milk, help neighbors, drop mail, etc. There is relatively no new information there. Your neighbors might know you are around, their doorbell cameras might have footage of you doing so… and what? How is the confirmation that a perfectly average behavior is indeed coherent? What also NOT having that footage bring? Maybe you are traveling and thus not with your pet but maybe you also are sick.

    So… I agree with you that all those cameras with footage are not healthy but also what do they genuinely add or remove? I would argue in principle a lot but in practice not so much. I would even argue to biggest impact is unwarranted stress and concerns, the chilling effect.

    Walk freely however you want, it’s your neighborhood, ignore the cameras.

    PS: as someone already pointed out, one does not need video cameras to track your movement and patterns, using wireless signal (5G/4G, WiFi, BT) on your phone is enough.


  • Why would you feel bad, the interview is a 2 way process. They are evaluating you but YOU are also evaluating them. It’s actually VERY costly to you too if you start working for the wrong company. If you realize after a week or a month that truly the culture, the tooling, etc basically anything but the pay does not match YOUR needs, whatever they may be, they you HAVE to pull out.

    You can be polite about removing your application, as you were, but you should not feel bad. It is precisely WHY there are interview. Candidate think about it as only them being evaluated and that’s very wrong. As your title says clearly it is about self respect but not just during the interview, the whole time. If you are not a match sure it does suck, for both, but that’s again better than a forced match that will bring both down over time.

    Finally regarding your last part, I recommend you edit your post to put your precise skillset and experience there. Hopefully someone can refer you to the right place.



  • IMHO the key aspect isn’t where you host things but rather understanding how hosting itself works.

    To me the most challenging aspects are how to :

    • route traffic
    • start a service
    • backup your data

    and also ideally

    • have more than 1 service on a single machine
    • restore your data
    • restore your entire setup

    For that very first step I would say having a machine directly exposed to the Internet makes it easier. I don’t know what ISP you use but at least in Belgium where I’m currently located all ports are closed and IP are dynamic. That means if you want to show your freshly started Apache Web server to your mother in law it will challenging.

    Meanwhile if you do manage to get to the last step, namely restore your entire setup, then restoring to a cloud service or a RPi is the same, you transfer your data, start your services and voila, you are back either LAN only or on the entire Internet via a cloud provider.

    So autonomy isn’t as much as to where things are physically hosted and by whom as in the actual capacity to able to host there or elsewhere.

    Finally if you are using a commercial ISP, as opposed to having your own AS, are you really self-hosting?