Weird that you responded twice to my comments, but alright.

I don’t care about most people, I thought facebook sucked, Twitter even more so

We weren’t talking about you personally, because you yourself cannot make up a statistically significant share of the market. Social media was what it was and is what it is, regardless of if you used it or what you thought about it. AI is the same, and I don’t care if now it is useful to you, I care that, given so many terrible examples of technologies taken to mainstream and creating all sorts of problems, people still are naive enough to think that AI is not going to fuck us over ten fold.

In my house, we don’t shame anyone for being neurodivergent.

My .md files have a prompt to keep things honest, so either way, you would have gotten the same result.

there are jobs I would have turned down before that would have taken thousands of hours but thanks to AI I only spent 10’s of hours on them

Weird take. You would have turned down a job because it takes “too long”? The whole point of wages is to get money for your time.

Also, highly doubt something that would take you a “thousand hours” now can be done with AI in tens. Something useful, I mean.

Social media on the other hand is a plague of garbage and I wish facebook and twitter would be deleted off the net

You clearly weren’t around when it all started. Social media was peddled as a legitimately useful thing. People organized around Facebook groups, and stopped paying telecommunication companies for SMS usage because of WhatsApp. LinkedIn became the dominant player in white collar job seeking. In Asia, super apps like Line or Kakao or WeChat became so popular, they became the mainstream way of finding, contacting and paying businesses for services. Twitter was the place for legitimate reporters to post short form content.

It all went downhill afterwards. Most people thought, at the beginning, that social media would revolutionize the world as we knew it. They just didn’t know it wouldn’t be in a good way.

Sorry about that. Let’s call it “another technology specifically designed by large corporations to be extractive and destructive”.

It’s always funny to see comments like this, dismissing AI critics by calling them “doomers”, while society as a whole is still dealing with the consequences of the last widespread tech fad: social networks.

I was with you with the whole tooling thing until

RAD and “low code” tools, etc

These have always been terrible.

Anyway, my point here was, obviously, that producing larger and larger volumes of code faster, isn’t something desirable, and it has never been. You took this out of context, with the added injury of commenting on the follow up sentence… but I’m glad you did, because it clarified your position a lot.

Because you said that you would instruct a LLM to refactor code because you didn’t feel like doing it. The irony here is three fold:

• You would leave a poorly written and unnecessary larger piece of code in your code base, which would increase development time as reviews would take longer, which was precisely the reason why you would want a human in the software engineering loop in the first place.
• You claim that the LLM would refactor the code for you, but LLMs, in general, are designed with the implied requirement of maximizing token usage.
• Later in your comment, you said that you don’t care about losing skills that “aren’t needed anymore”, but I wonder, isn’t this the kind of skill, i.e. refactoring inefficiently written code, that you would want a senior developer to maintain? Even more, in the long term, how would you guarantee that you could tell a good refactor from a bad one?

In short, I think you are wrong, but I don’t think you would know why until it bites you.

And further proof of it is this.

Even memory allocation is something you don’t need to care about unless you’re writing in C still.

This is why we get shitty software, Java apps that blow up once a week and websites that freeze your browser. Because “memory allocation is something you don’t need to care about”.

I guess it won’t make any difference if you replace your skills with a LLM, since it sure sounds like you didn’t have that many to begin with.

I don’t think you understood my point.

Writing code faster was never something anyone with any real knowledge of their domain would think is desirable. I don’t care if more code is written faster, because that has never been a good indicator of productivity. In fact, I would argue that less code is better.

Anyway, it’s funny that you mention, in a somewhat patronising tone by the way, that we need to adapt and not be wary of AI because we have “other skills”.

If you want to keep a human in the loop, then fine. Now you have a choke point in your otherwise faster machine. A human who now needs to understand code they haven’t written, and with more and more datapoints coming up suggesting that LLM usage leads to skill atrophy, an eventually more fallible human at that.

An experienced programmer who could actually review the code produced by a LLM, won’t be able to do so at the speed the LLM writes it.

What’s your solution to avoid slop in this scenario?

I see. Since we’re involving the government here, how about they take these children from their parents, then? After all, what you describe is a spectacular parenting failure: they give their kids the tools to access porn sites and leave them unchecked.

You meant “the number of new projects that will soon be abandoned”.

Wholeheartedly agree with OP.

When people think of telemetry, they think of Microsoft, or Google, or Apple. But pretty much every single player in software out there uses telemetry one way or another, and they don’t use it for ad tracking because there are already better and more specialised tools for that.

Bug reports coming from non technical people are worthless. Sometimes, they might trigger some further investigation, and that’s it, because they don’t have enough detail to be useful. Telemetry is the only realistic way of debugging these issues.

How do you know?

I cannot think of a single bug report coming from a non technical person that would be useful to debug an issue. The most they do is get you to know about a potential problem in the system, which most of the time boils down to user error. Telemetry is pretty much the only way to find the root cause, other than a lab reproducing the customer’s environment 1:1, which is both unrealistic and would still require telemetry to be remotely possible.

A bit naive to expect any politician to match one’s own ideology 100% of the time.

When they do, they tend to be populists like Trump: spineless who would promise whatever their followers demand from them. I would be wary of any politician who had never made a blunder.

Anyway, since you wouldn’t compromise, I guess you don’t vote?

makes one mistake

“I don’t want to hear anything he has to say anymore”

Peak Lemmy mentality.

Obvious troll is obvious.

From where?

I know people who moved from America and Asia and they had to prove that they had at least 15,000 euro in the bank as students. I also know that for the non lucrative visa that could be twice as much. These requirements are dropped if employed by a Spanish company, but honestly that’s quite rare.

Right, I’m just saying it’s not as easy as you think it is.

This MBA mf has been the CEO during the worst security disasters in Palo Alto history, and now he thinks AI is the future of the company?

To what? And for what purpose?