XMPP!

Stoat is dead in the water due to dependency on the UK and not an easy solution to deploy yet.

Fluxer is dead in the water due to license.

Americans People will do anything but just setup XMPP, this is literally what it was invented for.

Sure why not, avoid them all you want.

Just sayin’, we don’t need no stinkin’ tiktok style censorship around here.

To be fair, I should have stopped drinking coffee 10 years ago for my blood pressure.

Once again, something that is absolutely not needed to explain what a forum software is and thus, should degrade gracefully. To a static png or something.

The era of not judging the means ended in, like, 1066 or smth. Vibe-coded stuff for example means burning down a couple of forests just so the AI can propose where to place a semicolon, long before a “result” is even visible.

It’s 2026, being vibecoded is a self-explanatory problem.

This is the fediverse. You are FREE to use swear words! Shitshow! Cuntwad! Shitter!

As for

Why do they have to convert any nice product into a s.itshow?

Money, dear boy. Those VC shekels don’t pump up in value to support genocide by themselves!

Oh, so it is, hadn’t noticed it at first.

And, sure enough, disabling webgl in about:config causes the page to throw the error, instead of degrading gracefully. An animation of random dots is not at all necessary to expose about a product that is a web forum.

You mean why does the site for a forum software need webgl, by which the only reason I can think of is tracking visitors somehow. It’s not like the background landscape on the site is dynamic or something.

Mind, seems to be vibecoded.

That’s because it aims to replace one of the wrong use cases that projects (FOSS or not) weirdly decide to use Discord for, such as replacement for a “contact forum” or “support forum”.

Gonna say it aloud for the unweaned masses in the back.

The main problematic issue with most “we need an alternative for Yplatform in the Fediverse!” speech is the use of the singular. We are never going to get a good thing going if we push for “everything-app” platforms because they’ll be everything-apps, and the push of power is irresistible. Also, everything apps are much harder to develop for the same base feature set (“share a message” is easy in text, quadratically much harder on video), which is why VC-funded capital can do it.

We have to accept that what we need is alternatives, plural, to the various things that Discord and other platforms centralize. Because half the point here is we are against centralization. And allowing each project to focus on each problem separately allows them to take advantage of their own strengths, up to and including funding and provisioning (“get storage for a million items” is trivial on text; quadratically much harder on video).

We need a text messaging platform? XMPP already exists. Let’s go help.

We need audio chats? Mumble already exists. Let’s go help.

We need instant notifications? Surely something already exists. Let’s go help.

We don’t need “a walled garden but on the Fediverse”.

I have seen lots of people. Mostly not here, but that’s because we here know better (I’d hope). Runs along with usual complaints such that they can’t move from a platform with 9trillion captive users to a new budding platform, conveniently forgetting that when they began Shitter and stuff also had like 0 users yet people did move.

Exactly!

people act entitled as if all that you mention was trivial and that somehow FOSS devs “owe” people, but we only see those big corpos make it happen because… well, they’re big corpos, burning VC money on makint it happen and making it happen in a controlled jail.

To my not up-to-date knowledge (2021-ish) audio calls work but they require an extension (on both participants) and are limited to 1:1, no “audio conference” support.

I do think there’s bridging for Mumble? If so that should at least cover the “audio chat” use case.

Good luck! Report results.

This whole “FOSS names are bad” sounds like a Mccarthyism sysop by this point. Like, really, who is pushing that crap?

XMPP aka Jabber.

Geez, I was willing to bet some coins that this was about cryptography either.