Pretty sure it’s me ADHD that causes me to accumulate tabs like this…

I’ll have dozens and dozens of windows full of tabs.

I recently did a tab clean out before moving. And had tabs up from ideas or to do’s or items that interested me from 4+ years ago.

Every time I restart my computer or close Firefox I always restore my previous session and get all those tabs back.

Like I said, I’m not arguing that many apps are built as electron apps when they’re just glorified web apps. Though I’m neutral on whether that’s a bad thing or not. I’m definitely against apps being built with electron that don’t really have UIs, defeating the entire point of electron and friends…

VSCode is another example you’re missing. And they have put a LOT of work into making as many features available in the web-version as possible, the feature parity isn’t an accident.

Or Obsidian.

Examples aside, you might be surprised by applications you may not think of as not using native features, that rely heavily on them, expecting to be executing in a Node environment and not a browser one. Especially on the networking and process side. Browsers are extremely restrictive.

What are you talking about…? Please re-read my comment above :/

An electron app is a natjve application that renders a browser based UI. You appear to be conflating the browser-based UI with the whole “native application” thing.

It comes with all the advantages a native application does, like having hardware access, working natively offline, working with the filesystem, interfacing with the OS and installed OS packages, being able to use other native binaries, being able to use more native networking capabilities…etc

Sure lots of electron applications that people make could just be a web app, I’m not arguing that.

I am, however, pointing out that you are grossly incorrect that electron (and all other technologies like it, we’re not really just talking about electron here) is 'just a web app". It’s a native application server and a web-based UI, which means I can write an application in C# with all of the .Net advantages, with a web UI, that runs natively on your device for example.

This lets me ship a product much faster than if I was going to build that UI in QT or GTK, with a significantly upgraded user experience that is consistent across all platforms.

Depression or ADHD?

A bit miserable this week. Got sick, and haven’t been able to sleep more than a few hours a night as a result, which is making it worse.

A misery snowball effect.

Hoping I can get a full night’s sleep soon 🤞

That’s not how manipulation works…

You don’t know you are being manipulated, you do so willingly. And the folks who recognize it are beat down by the people who are unwittingly doing the AIs bidding…

The humans are the physical danger, the AI just extends it’s reach through humans via manipulation. All it takes is access to influence.

It doesn’t take much to make humans act against their self interests. Dumb humans make other dumb and even smart humans do it today at massive scales. For a superinteligence this is like taking candy from a baby.

I have a PC I built a year and a half ago and apparently it “doesn’t meet the requirements” for windows 11…

Ryzen 5 5600x and a 3060 TI.

Which is… Also a real desktop app. This shallow take is getting incredibly old, and doesn’t even contribute to actual valuable discussion… If you don’t see the value in this being shipped, then why try and tear the value down for others?

I main C#, and even I would rather build cross platform full applications with electron than any of the other options available. I’m definitely choosing it over QT or gtk. Why? Because I can actually ship the project with all the necessary features, in good time, and bake in a great user experience.

That’s the difference here. Practical problems vs reality. Shipping the project & features vs not.

Yes, there are many successful applications not built with electron, ofc there are, that’s not my point. My point is that the productivity difference is such that it’s the difference between not building the thing vs building it and successful shipping it to users. You can argue and shit on the difference, but at the end of the day the above is what really matters.

I don’t think that’s how it works, and is a pretty toxic and non-constructive way to look at this.

TFW you’re storing 2D and 3D data structures and you read this 😂

I’ve played around with this a few times now and I talked about getting a trench coat for a good day with my wife and now I just won’t stop getting ads for long coats…

Honestly it’s ridiculously invasive.

Hopefully without the toxic devs?

So… Throw them in jail? Make them accountable? Revoke the companies ability to do business till the records are provided?

Then again, that’s just fantasy because the laws don’t matter if you’re Rick/big enough anymore.

Jack… Fortnight? This hurts. RIP the original franchises.

Incredibly easy to miss, damn.

Honestly?

Heat death of the universe.

Our biology is hardwired for tribalism.

Really, victim blaming?

Get out of here with that low quality crap.

The wrong lesson?

I’m not sure how reducing your attack surface area is the wrong lesson here.

Definitely distopian, corporate power and entrenchment grows every year.

Probably because of the “you can’t be sexist against males” standpoint