Said “failure” that only occurred according to one person’s blog.

I really doubt you folks are members of that blog and read the story.

The reason his companies are so successful is because he does listen to his engineers and prioritizes their communication and decision making by having a relatively flat organization that keeps management interference at a minimum.
No leader makes the right call and decision every time.

Interestingly enough there was another article published very recently about how Tesla’s full self-driving performed every bit as good as Waymo in San Francisco but with less hardware.
And I think it is pretty obvious which of the two is going to work better outside of San Francisco.

Published article:
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/06/teslas-full-self-driving-matches-waymo-skills-despite-far-less-hardware/

Typical garbage take by the Guardian. It used to be a good paper.

And not news. This is an opinion piece/diatribe.

The US Coast Guard doesn’t do a whole lot in the Mediterranean.

undefined> I’m so tired of valuing people based on their net worth.

You mean like you just did?
In case you care, which you’ve already indicated you don’t, there are more researchers on the submarine than billionbaires.

Sorry, using “just” pisses me off too. It’s a really arrogant way of saying things, I agree. And yes, it would be a major pain in the ass. That is the kind of thing housewives did while their husbands were at work, which is honestly how it was able to work. And yeah, traffic and cities are much more crowded and sprawled now. I was pointing out it is possible though. And a dumb cell phone can be used for two factor auth. But overall I agree with everything you said. I was being pedantic and technically correct.
Small town life colors my view as well. Things are a lot different than in the cities.

Whether their hubris is punished or not is of no consequence to me. In some ways the ultimate karma is waking up every day to find out we are ourselves. I’m more concerned with building cool stuff for us to use than with anyone getting what I think is their comeuppance.

That’s great. Teaching them what it is capable of opens new vistas (not that Vista) and that there are lots of possibilities with other software as well. Not a MS fan at all but Excel is powerful and the point comes through regardless of the platform.

Half the fun is using things for how they weren’t intended.

there’s an assumption by older generations that because zoomers have grown up with smartphones that they’ll automatically be proficient with tech as a whole

That’s like thinking someone knows how to cook because they can order at McDonalds.

How are you able to see what’s going on at Twitter? Do you work there in a position where you have a decent overview of the company?
And sure, he might totally run Twitter into the ground. Like I said, I wouldn’t put money into the company. But it’s about where every other company he has run was, so I wouldn’t bet against his success there either.
The idea that if he fails at making Twitter a success means he is an idiot and Tesla and SpaceX are a fluke are delusional though.

You mean invested in it. Then took over as CEO when the board voted the former CEO out because he was spending everything they had without getting close to producing a car they could manufacture.
Telsa never produced any cars until Musk was running it.
The continued success under his leadership for the ramp ups for the Model S and and full on ramp up to mass manufacturing the Model 3 kind of demonstrates that. To say nothing of Spacex.
\What did Eberhard do after Tesla again?
Saying he did nothing of consequence at SpaceX would be claiming that everyone who worked with him there is flat out lying. People don’t talk smack about their former employers even if they don’t like them or think they are idiots… But they don’t make an effort to praise their abilities in that case either. I’m thinking it is more likely that you aren’t exactly in a position to know more than they do.

Twitter would be the only mature company with any previous success that he actually ever bought into and the only one he did not build from the ground up. Eberhard building a crap foundation that needed a lot of rebuilding doesn’t count.

I know you don’t want any of this to be true because he’s a dick. But the world isn’t a Hollywood movie where the bad guys get what you think they deserve and only the nice people are brilliant.

“Stealing ideas” isn’t a thing. Ideas are a dime a dozen. Prototypes are much rarer. The even more difficult part is taking things and mass manufacturing them in a way that people can afford and also want.
There’s no scam to manufacturing a million cars a year. Nor is SpaceX remotely a scam.
No matter how much of a dick he is on Twitter it doesn’t mean he is stupid and can’t build and organize companies that work really, really well. Nothing about doing that depends on someone being a “good” or likeable person.
I don’t worship anyone. But I don’t make up reality just to fit with my beliefs about how things should be according to my ideology.

Sure. Just like he was with Tesla, which was never going to succeed, or if it did, be a niche market. Or like his even crazier idea to start a private orbital launch company.
Like one prominent investor said about Elon in general, I wouldn’t invest in Twitter but I wouldn’t bet against Elon either.

Tesla paid down much more debt than that before it was as profitable as it is now. $10 billion isn’t going to sink Tesla. Or SpaceX. They are both materially valuable in a way companies like Twitter are not.

What about in winter, when the sun isn’t as hot?

undefined> Technically true. But it’s estimated that between 1/3 and 1/2 are NSFW. That is, the subs they don’t want shown at their (mythical) IPO.

I’m pretty sure r/clipclop is considered respectable and mainstream now.

At least when they were paying for bots and shills there was a modicum of plausible deniability.

Weird. I thought having the top selling car in the world this year so far and founding the most advanced space program in the world made Elon look like a strategic genius. But he hasn’t made the company he bought and turned private 6 months ago profitable? What a loser.

I’m guessing you’ve never had the opportunity to try? I’ve never run an organization that large and I would have fucked it up long before this. Although one could argue that so did Spez…