And the incorrect assumptions just continue…

Edit: Who I am shouldn’t matter to you. Addressing the idea that you can shift some or all anti-cheat to the server is something you should try to engage with directly rather than appealing to authority. For what it’s worth, I’ve spent time as a programmer in the game industry in a handful of different roles and your search will eventually find me if you keep going down that road. My experience isn’t what I am arguing here, though.

Frankly, I feel like it’s wrong for you to say that the problem is pushed onto users when you don’t understand the code and effort the developers are writing to solve this issue specifically with counter-strike

You are the one who continues to make assumptions about what I do and do not understand about the code that makes this work in various games.

I don’t really feel like getting into the nitty gritty here in comments, but if your experience is what you say, I’m very surprised at some of your unqualified statements.

I’ll bow out now.

I wrote a snarky response because of the final insulting comment in yours but then thought better of it, going to try to address a couple of your points legitimately even after the unnecessary personal attack.

It’s a lot cheaper to make your server dumb. It costs you less in programmers with deep multiplayer programming experience, it costs you less in ongoing hosting because of reduced CPU usage, and it makes the problem less “yours” as a developer.

I’m saying that’s shitty that the developers will try to save money that way rather than investing in actual effective, privacy-respecting cheat prevention.

Your argument seems to be that a quake-style predictive algorithm is the only solution possible for online games. I doubt that is the case, but even if it were, using some raycasts on the server for some basic sanity checks on what data to send to players is an example of where lots of developers just can’t be bothered.

If you want to dismiss machine learning as heuristics, I’m sorta ok with that, as I think they are just glorified heuristics, but even the most basic analysis isn’t done by most developers. Instead, they rely on the sales pitches of various anti-cheat software and don’t implement anything beyond it, even when there might be some low hanging fruit.

I am not saying developers are lazy, there’s tons of stuff to work on. I am mad that this problem gets repeatedly pushed onto the users rather than the developers, though, and I think it’s reasonable for me to offer some pushback when both my CPU cycles and my privacy are being abused.

people really enjoy the boot of anti-cheat on their necks.

maybe these companies could move their cheat detection to the server where they control the code. maybe don’t just send all player positions so wall-hacks become impossible. maybe use some machine learning to look at input patterns and detect when a player is sending things that don’t look human.

the list of things companies could do to actually fix cheating in pvp games is long and all they want to do is pay for ridiculous anti-cheat that impacts normal users.

ridiculous.

At this point does Google ever do anything that isn’t awful for the consumer?

Eject, friend, eject!

Not going to agree with the commenter above, but I want to point out that this happens a lot:

A person who holds views that are detrimental to others comes to a community of those people and cries “why, when I am not quite like other people who hold these views, but agree with them on the detrimental stuff about you, do you not accept me?”

The people in the community try repeatedly to explain why holding views that harm others is harmful and that the person asking may need to revaluate their own views.

The person then says they’re being attacked. Everything they predicted about this community is coming true! They feel like they’re being kicked out!

And they are! Because when they came to engage then didn’t change, let alone evaluate, any of their own views, the community rightly showed them back to the door until they are ready to actually listen and put themselves in someone else’s shoes.

I am sure you feel like you have been badly treated at this point. What you do with that now is up to you. I’ll say this: I have no hate for you, I would like nothing more than to give you some feedback that might help change how you view some things. I hope there is enough food for thought here for everyone.

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At what point do we start to discuss how evil the Russian regime is? I mean, this is feeling like we are approaching the lines in the sand that we drew after WWII, if we haven’t already blown past them.

I have no desire to lose more lives, but this is evil. How can any country support Russia in this?

FWIW: these types of password rules are discouraged by NIST -

1. Eliminate Periodic Resets

Many companies ask their users to reset their passwords every few months, thinking that any unauthorized person who obtained a user’s password will soon be locked out. However, frequent password changes can actually make security worse.

It’s difficult enough to remember one good password a year. And since users often have numerous passwords to remember already, they often resort to changing their passwords in predictable patterns, such as adding a single character to the end of their last password or replacing a letter with a symbol that looks like it (such as $ instead of S).

So if an attacker already knows a user’s previous password, it won’t be difficult to crack the new one. The NIST guidelines state that periodic password-change requirements should be removed for this reason.

I wasn’t prepared for that. The views. Wow.

There are millions of small companies and shops that need engineering help. Many will actually talk to you like a person because they haven’t been enshuttified to death.

STOP WORKING FOR THESE GIANT HELLHOLES.

Why are you applying to that soulless shitshack??

As an outsider with no horse in the race, I thought this a good discussion.

In the end, I think maybe Quebec gets what it wants: I have no interest in visiting a place that tries to police its “culture” that much.

The sad truth is it will need to get much worse until conservatives will admit there is a problem and let progressives solve it.

It has always been this way. You either live in a progressive, upwardly moving state with improving quality of life or you get stuck in a conservative, stagnant or downward trending place where people are more concerned with “others” than they are with doing anything productive as a society. As a species, we seem to slowly wobble back and forth between these extremes. It’s maddening.

“The West” is essentially the group of nations attempting to abide by a moral code. It is not always, or maybe even often, successful, but there is a vast gulf between their morality-based approach and what China, Russia, DPRK, and other fascist/semi-fascist nations are doing.

https://kbin.social/m/snippets needs you!

The idea is a federated repo of code snippets, and we need more people to help drive it!

How much do you think you’d need to get out? (Asking, in a kidding way, as a Californian who is tired of these memes about how it’s bad to live here when you’re just describing any major urban center in the world.)

Edit: you’re not wrong about the challenges, it’s just that they’re not unique to California.

In 10 years you haven’t made any professional connections who would want to work with you again?

That is the single best avenue to other jobs: foot in the door through someone you have worked with who can vouch for your professionalism and ability.

If you’re not making those connections, something is wrong. It could be the kinds of jobs you’ve taken, eg: if they’re all solo contracts and you don’t interact with anyone on anything other than deliverables. Or you are taking roles where your output is used only by a small sunset of the company or something?

If you’re taking reasonable roles and have decent interaction with co-workers and no one is willing to refer you for a job, then you need to think about what your relationships are like at work and why they aren’t positive enough.

Put him in jail for contempt.

He and his followers are full of fucking hot air. Enough. I’m bored.

I don’t understand the people who want apps.

I’m not looking for an argument - you do you. But I don’t understand your desire to install things.