Vodulas [they/them]

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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • advocating common sense is not victim blaming.

    You say that, but you also said this in your original statement, which is classic victim blaming:

    sometimes people really do get what they deserve 🤷‍♂️

    They did not deserve this. You can say you are advocating for common sense, but the first thing you said was that they deserved to be harmed.

    https://lemmy.zip/post/54116147/23096002

    I’ve seen this comment, and I do not find it persuasive. For the first part, how do you know it is a sketchy neighborhood? You could easily walk into a situation you have no way to know is a bad situation through no fault of your own. What if you are there to take pictures in the neighborhood? There are a ton of reasons someone could find themselves in that situation. If you get robbed, the blame still falls on the perpetrator. The person did not deserve to be robbed.

    The car analogy does not have anything to do with this situation. You would be walking into a space where you knew you were likely to get hurt, vs this situation where you expect to NOT be hurt.

    and one should assume that at least some of the women who were patients there had one. it only takes one person to raise an alarm in situation like that.

    And if that were the case, I would assume that detail would at least be mentioned in the article since that could be it’s own story. Honestly it would be a better way to frame this article. All of the little details point to this not being the case and they just mentioned the gynecologist for engagement bait.


  • i’ll go out on a limb here and say that records from the lobby don’t make very good “sexploitation” material

    The article only states that a gynecologist’s office camera was hacked, not that the footage was used. It sucks, but I can guarantee they put that in there for shock value.

    Later it states 1193 videos were made from 133,000 cameras that were hacked, so while nobody but the people with the data can say for sure, it is quite possible it was just a lobby camera.

    the article is about camera hacks, not cameras hidden by some peeping tom

    Yes, but your argument is that people should have gone elsewhere. People are just giving you pretty reasonable explanations as to why they might not have simply gone to another doctor. Nobody is saying “This is exactly what happened.”

    “some” might not, but again, there is no indication these were purposely hidden cameras, so lot of them should.

    There is no indication that it was a visible camera in the exam room either. You just made that assumption.

    The article says nothing about the circumstances, so everything said is speculation. Assuming the camera was visible and in the exam room is just that, an assumption. Just as you made that assumption, others gave reasons why that may not be true.

    You can justify victim blaming all you want, but the fact of the matter is the blame lies solely on the perpetrator. If they did not do the bad deed, then the victim would not be a victim.

    You can, and should, have situational awareness, but that is something that comes with experience and practice. Not everyone can prepare for every situation.

















  • OK, I have said this multiple times and you don’t seem to be listening.

    I literally did not say you were a misogynist. I never said you hate women. I stated that I did not think that in multiple ways. I said you are using an outdated term and people who are misogynists use it. I did so in the hope that you would at least be more cautious in your use.

    It’s akin to saying “‘hot dog’ is offensive; you need to say ‘frankfurter.’”

    It’s not though. It’s akin to using the G slur when you mean got ripped off. It is an outdated slang term that a whole lot of people find offensive. Even if the people around you have not, the greater population of people have moved the fuck on.

    Clearly you think this an attack on you (it’s not, for the record), so I am done. I’m done having the slightest critique escalated to an attack on your character. Honestly, I’m probably done with you altogether. This is not the first time you have had multiple people tell you something only to you stick your fingers in your ears and say “nuh-uh, my personal experience trumps all” even after being provided evidence of a world view beyond yours.

    So yeah, have a good one.


  • Now, we can play this game that I hate women, but it’s not going to have a lot of legs.

    I literally never said that and don’t even know where this came from. Please stop escalating beyond what I have said

    The failure, as I see it, is that “chicks” only came into my lexicon via women. If they’re using the term, how am I being offensive?

    Could be a few reasons. Internalized misogyny is a thing. Maybe they grew up around it and didn’t know the connotations. The more likely thing is that when it entered you lexicon it was more acceptable. Times change, culture changes, language changes.

    If nothing else, you clearly have a group around you that tolerates the use. And if that works for them, that’s fine. The folks here don’t know you, though. We only have your interactions on here to guide us. Getting defensive about using terms like this paints a picture, however untrue, that you don’t respect women and don’t care to listen to outside perspectives.