I’d argue that maybe it isn’t based on political or religious views

The main argument I see against Lemmy devs is that they’re “tankies”, which is most certainly political. And I agree. Except that there’s nothing in the software itself that is political. Only the devs, and many of the .ml communities and users.

Only ~3,000,000,000 people/month.

that is the privilege of a list curator.

It can be their privilege and also be censorship. You seem to imply otherwise.

If you don’t care then stop arguing about it. Personally, I care very much about people spreading disinformation.

What is what?

After reading a lot of similar opinions I put it on the “beginner” difficulty level and it’s not very difficult at all. And I am not a talented gamer. So maybe give that a shot and work your way up if you feel the need.

Okay, so you are saying that now…? I honestly don’t know how you expect anyone to take you seriously at this point.

I’m not denying your experience, I’m denying your interpretation of your experience. You don’t get a special version of the app that’s different from ours. They all work the same.

As I explained above, what you may have interpreted as Signal sharing your contact info was actually just Signal notifying all of the people that already have your contact information that you joined the service, using the information those people already have…

I didn’t say that.

…who are you trying to fool? It’s there for everyone to see…?

But since you brought it up:

As I already stated, this is incorrect. It’s not how it works. And after publishing such obviously incorrect information, I wouldn’t trust anything they said.

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or “inconvenient”. Censorship can be conducted by governments and private institutions. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is referred to as self-censorship. General censorship occurs in a variety of different media, including speech, books, music, films, and other arts, the press, radio, television, and the Internet for a variety of claimed reasons including national security, to control obscenity, pornography, and hate speech, to protect children or other vulnerable groups, to promote or restrict political or religious views, and to prevent slander and libel.

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They are suppressing information about the fediverse based on political views. They had it up and then they took it down. Please explain how this is not censorship. I don’t know where people get the idea that censorship is an inherently negative thing.

LOL you did. The title of the link you shared is “signal leaks your phone number to everyone in your contacts”.

Then why did you bring it into the conversation?

Neither. I explained my/our rationale above. Your disinformation is making people unsafe.

Signal does not leak your phone number to anyone. You/they are just ignorant as to how the service works. Signal will notify you if someone YOU HAVE IN YOUR CONTACTS joins the network. It will not give you any of their personal information. Their ID will show up as whatever is already in your contacts.

You made a baseless claim that Signal does not retain the phone numbers

So you’ve run out of personal insults and repetition and are just moving on to blatant lies now…

Do you think if they were giving away extra information in NSLs and witholding that information in public subpoenas that no one would ask questions or hold them accountable for that?

Okay, you’ve sufficiently demonstrated not only that you don’t know what you’re talking about but also that you have no evidence to back it up and your only recourse is repetition and personal insults so I’m gonna call it a night.

If I’m honest, it’s not convenient either. I stopped using it years ago because I kept getting logged out of my accounts and flagged for “automated activity”. Plus they straight up lie about supporting SMS and RCS. The only “support” they have is connecting it to your Google account.

Unless you’re in a position to audit what the Signal server does with that data, which you’re not

I don’t have to be. Lots of people, public and private, who are far more knowledgeable than me, already have. You’re assuming they’re doing something nefarious but you have zero evidence to back that up. You’re just spewing nonsense here. The fact that you keep repeating this nonsense over and over isn’t going to make it true baby Goebbels.

The fact that you don’t understand there is no trust, clearly shows who’s actually embarrassing themselves.

Your phone number is an identifying piece of information about the person who is sending and receiving messages. That’s what metadata is.

It’s not. And I’m tired of repeating myself.

The content of the message is the data, the identifying information is metadata

Once again, no one has access to the content of the messages. Ergo, there is no metadata. Maybe spend a bit of time actually learning about the subject instead of trolling here.

Theoretically no, all of your messages stored on Beeper servers are encrypted. But they will get all your metadata.

But I wouldn’t worry about that anyway since Discord not only has access to all of your messages but sells them to companies to process for AI. So that’d be the far easier and faster route for them.

The phone number is not associated with your account, it IS your account. In order for there to be metadata, there would have to be other data associated with it, which we’ve already established that there is not.