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Cake day: June 10th, 2023

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  • If you think anything on the Internet can ever be forgotten… Your going to have a bad time. Passwords, one of the most protected data types, are compiled from beaches into huge databases so that hackers can use them to try to log into website. There are literally dozens of not hundreds of those password databases on the public Internet to be downloaded, not to mention private or dark web collections. If passwords are not safe, what makes you think publicly available social media would be any different?

    Even if somehow the whole federation agreed to purge all post every year, things like the Internet archive and Google cache of pages would retain the data.



  • There are many variables that makes a yes no answer impossible. Currently there are too many instances for a lawsuit to be brought to each. The instances are in different countries, do different laws would have to be navigated for each. For example, in the US, Google has like to piracy websites. Google doesn’t allow housing of piracy on their platform. Google does some removal of listings but it is but exhaustive.

    Google is not being held liable, and I bet if an instance happens to cache piracy content due to a user interacting with another insurance, Google and ISPs would be interested in helping that instance so president isn’t set that creates liability for traffic that happens to traverse servers, if it is but being served by the server.

    This is a very ELI5, and isn’t a full discussion of all the variables. A difficult question even limited to one country’s laws.

    Realistically, the while point of a federation us to make it impossible to shut down, or censor world wide, the community as there are simply too many different servers. This works against corporate attacks as well as legal.





  • For best practice, my personal recommendation would be to not have any service public facing besides a VPN that requires MFA. segment self hosted services into separate VLANs based on how sensitive the content is. Disallow all traffic between VLANs unless required and only allow based on port number, specific resources needed. Don’t forgot to disable outgoing Internet access unless required. Devices like Chinese made video cameras should never have an Internet connection.

    My network looks something like: home vlan, work vlan, Netflix \ hulu streaming devices, cctv, wireless work, wireless home, wireless guest, iot, servers, network management. Would be way overkill for vast majority of people, but I would be hypocritical not to considering what I do and I do have a different threat profile than most.

    Another thought: self hosted through VPN with MFA and nothing public facing is probably safer than cloud as long as you have cold backups.


  • It was meant more as a joke than criticizing hosting your own services. I personally have a VPN with MFA, and services that I host for my self that are segmented to a paranoid level (home camera system on own vlan, restricted from being able to reach any other vlan or the Internet, etc) with a deny all and explicit allows on per host and traffic type. The amount of work that went into building the network is probably overkill, and it is still susceptible to nation state and supply chain compromise but hopefully whoever gets in will curse me if they try to move around the network.

    Realistically, every added service and host is added attack surface and chances for misconfiguration \ supply chain attack, but being alive is a risk too…

    I’m guessing system admins and dev op is over represented here so some of our home networks may be targeted as a path into a corporate environment, but I’m guessing the chances are low. Sadly even the most secure networks are not an impossible target. The attackers are well ahead of defenders of networks. Attackers need exceptions, while defenders need everything perfect. Much harder to accomplish.