I was shocked when my new realme, which uses the same tech, didn’t even break 30°C while charging at 8+ Amps (should be around 80W). This was in a relatively warm room (25°C) and using the case that came with it

That’s impressive. I’m looking at my phone now, not charging, but the screen is on, and it’s at 33C. LOL

AccuBattery needs a session to have 60% charged, so <20% to 80% works. Doesn’t need to be every single one.

It’s rare for me to get that low, even while charging to 80%. 😵

But yeah, every so often I’ll let it drain, then do a 100% charge to see what’s up. I don’t like doing that, because even Accubattery says that takes up more of a charge cycle than charging conservatively.

I do like the trend chart, although, the battery health on that actually went UP 5% between March and May 😱

Wipe your ass with that.

As demonstrated in Montreal, Toronto, Paris (France), Netherlands (pick any city), Berlin, San Francisco, and every other place that takes transportation seriously, you have to degrow car-centric infrastructure to build people moving infrastructure, including bike lanes.

The growing urban population needs to find more sustainable ways to get around, because you can never satisfy car-centric infrastructure. “One more lane, bro” isn’t an actual solution to anything.

And my feeling is that they aren’t using the gains from this to make the batteries last, as SUPERVOOC is faster than pretty much every other standard. That makes me think they turned in any and all gains in battery health, for speed.

There is a setting to explicitly benefit from using an official charger and cable, but I don’t know if it’s on by default (it’s disabled on my phone).

That said, the heat while charging is about the same as the heat from holding the phone in my hand (around 38C), and doesn’t get much hotter than that while gaming thanks to pass-through charging.

My Samsung was definitely hotter, and would overheat if charging while doing anything like GPS navigation. But my last Samsung was a Note 10+, and so things may have very well changed since then.

You may want to use something like AccuBattery

Already do, and have for years.

But AccuBattery doesn’t seem to play nice with the OP13, with many users reporting lower battery health from the start (80-90%), and inaccurate capacity (<1000 mAh less than the designed capacity).

Coupled with the fact that it’s only accurate if you are constantly charging from below 15% to 100%, these are ranges that I rarely get my phone into.

Even though battery longevity is important to me, since I no longer replace my phones “every year”, it really would be best if these damn things had user-replaceable batteries that were readily available. 😫

Isn’t one plus one of the brands that has their own fast charging tech, that’s extra fast?

Yes, but…

OnePlus offloads heat to the charger, so the phone actually doesn’t get hot while charging. This fact alone would IMPROVE charge cycles, even at fast speeds.

But OnePlus also uses quite a few “tricks” to preserve battery health. Did the test include those features or did they turn them off. And if they turned them off, did they do the same with the Samsung phones (which have similar battery-health preserving options)?

I’ve had my OP13 since the day it came out (around 5-6 months) and keep it charged to 80% (built-in feature) and only charge it to 100% when I’ll be out for the day and need to use GPS with max screen brightness. Battery health is still 100%.

I’ve owned a lot of Samsung phones before that, and the battery health was the only reason I’ve needed to replace them. So, I’m glad to see that the EU is taking charge cycles into account.

One piece of the puzzle that the numbers don’t mention, is that the smaller battery of the Samsung phones means you’ll be charging more often (i.e. more charge cycles) vs. something like a OP13 with a larger battery and excellent battery life (i.e. fewer charge cycles for the same use). Maybe that balances things out, but I’m still shocked that Sammy can get 1000 more charge cycles, which is YEARS more battery health than the other brands.

edit: clarity

This just recently happened.

Last year, we had a smoke detector with a 10-year built-in battery that was giving false positives. The manufacturer replaced it under warranty, but because I still needed to dispose of it properly, I just put it in the basement until I had time to get rid of it.

Since that time, it had not beeped once.

Two weeks ago, it started beeping, but only a few seconds and maybe once a day. Annoying, but whatever, it was going to be thrown out anyway.

But then it did it more often, until finally, it was going nuts one morning last week, and I had to permanently disable it.

As it turns out, that evening, a house on our block went up in flames. A total loss. None of the other smoke detectors, CO2 detectors, CO detectors, or even air quality meters picked up on anything that day.

Coincidence? Perhaps. I can’t explain it at all.

1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13

Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what’s happening here?

There’s fake black licorice, and there’s the real stuff. Two very different experiences!

I’ll turn to spray paint and vandalism if we ever reach that kind of ad hellscape.

They don’t. You have to get them from a place that imports like PDA Plaza out of Quebec (I’ve used them before).

To me, that’s a dealbreaker, because you lose the benefit of getting replacement parts easily.

Thanks for sharing. I can finally get off LT.

Tesla vehicles are specifically singled out, because as far as I know, they are the only autonomous vehicle that uses cameras instead of Lidar.

And the Tesla company has a habit of cover ups, falsifying or manipulating crash data, and fraud.

I don’t trust any autonomous car on public roads, but some are considerably more trustworthy than Teslas.

FWIW, you can buy robot vacuums for your home with more advanced object detection than a robotaxi. 🫤

I mean given their track record

That’s my point. Tesla (the company) has been notorious for pushing forward their deadly “self-driving” technology. It’s one of the worst automated systems on the planet, with plenty of tests, reports, and real-world incidences to raise red flags all over the place.

They SHOULD NOT be on the road, so are they only on the road because Musk was able to influence someone?

I mean, if they weren’t as buggy as they clearly already are, then sure… do a point system.

But as they stand, they shouldn’t be on the road.

Ah, Ok.

I agree with accountability, but not with the point system. That’s almost like a “three strikes” rule for drunk drivers.

That’s not really accountability, that’s handing out free passes.

Was it? I didn’t read a single hint of adding accountability in the article.

But that begs the question: shouldn’t accountability be in place now, and not maybe at some point in the distant future? They are already on the road.

How about we leave the driving to people, and not pre-alpha software?

There’s no accountability for this horribly dangerous driving, so they shouldn’t be on the road. Period.

Fucking hell. We don’t let drunks drive taxis, and that goddamn thing drove like it was under the influence.

Does Tesla get sent tickets for traffic violations, or are we OK with this?

How many bombs did he drop on Russia? Because he said he would end the war against Ukraine.

Yeah, isopropyl alcohol is probably the best because it doesn’t leave any residue behind like oil, wd40, and other adhesive removers do.

Thank you for sharing. It’s painful to realize in hindsight that those websites were peak internet.

They lack polish, but they were all a labour of love. No enshittification, no selling things, no corporate influence, no shit posting.

Everything had a purpose, every post took effort, and it was all about sharing experiences or knowledge.

I really miss that internet.

EDIT: correcting gibberish 🤭