JonEFive

Good.

Signed - a grumpy former network admin.

I’m mostly joking and for those wondering why it matters, we’re out of public IPv4 addresses and ISPs are starting to go IPv6 only in some places. From the post:

New ISPs in my country are IPv6-only because there is no new IPv4 space to be provided to them. They do have a over-shared IPv4 address by CGNAT but due to the oversharing, it is unstable and not rare to be offline. For these companies, the internet access is stable only in IPv6.

Valid theory. Twitter was getting a lot of attention for their work to reduce the spread of misinformation and blatant racism. Both things that the republican party and their supporters seem to be firmly opposed to. It might therfore make sense to delegitimize the platform while giving a megaphone to the people who were previously being censored or fact checked.

I always say “follow the money” which is why I couldn’t figure out Elon’s motives in all this. It doesn’t make sense to buy a company then intentionally tank it’s value. But it might make sense in terms of people in power controlling another media outlet to broadcast and reinforce their narrative.

It all started as a stock market manipulation scheme. Now that “Daddy” told him he had to make good on his commitments, he’s throwing a tantrum and saying “well, if I’m forced to buy it, I own it. And if I own it, I can do whatever I want with it. So I guess I will can just do this!” and he proceeds to destroy it. Just another spoiled brat rich kid who doesn’t like being told what to do.

True. It makes me at least think about what other options there are in terms of resiliency for user accounts. Right now we’re back to the wild west days of the internet where you might not be 100% sure that your provider is in it for the long haul. There were so many random email hosts in the 90s and early 2000s with vanity domains. Now, it’s rare to see anything other than Gmail, outlook, iCloud, or hotmail for personal emails. People congregated around the big companies. That’s what worries me about companies like Meta and Twitter getting into the fediverse

While it isn’t practical for most users, if you’re really that concerned about maintaining control of your user account, you could create your own Kbin instance that’s basically just for you. There are hosting services available where you could probably do it for a few bucks a month plus the cost of the domain name. I’ve considered setting something like this up myself.

Obviously this isn’t a viable solution for most people, but it is an option.

It’s an interesting conundrum for sure, but I think a lot of people are looking at this the wrong way. People seem to want what they used to have on reddit: one massive community for each topic. In reality, federated services like Kbin and Lemmy are like lots of small reddits. Each instance has its own group of users and it’s own magazines/communities.

This is a bit like how things used to be before gigantic sites like reddit were around. If there was a particular interest you wanted to follow or discuss, you would seek out a forum site that catered specifically to that interest. You might have a few different sites that you would log into to see new posts, add comments, etc. This fostered some pretty tight knit communities where you might actually get to know other users because they’re might only be a couple hundred active users or even less.

And there might have been some overlap between those forums. If you’re into cars, you might participate in one forum specifically for corvette owners and also a more general car enthusiast forum. Both of those sites might have boards dedicated to a particular model of corvette. The difference now is that you only need one account to participate in both forums.

And when a forum site would shut down, either the owners would give notice ahead of time so that users could relocate, or if the site disappeared, users were left to find new places to congregate on their own.

Kbin.social is a general forum whose purpose is to provide users with a centralized place to log in to to discuss a variety of topics. I think as the fediverse continues to spread, we’ll see more specialized instances. Midwest.social is a good example of that that I am aware of.

So as it pertains to magazine ownership and faith in moderators and admins, is it really all that different from what we’ve been doing? If a magazine owner starts doing something that the community doesn’t like, someone can create a new magazine and users can migrate if they choose. The same is true of an instance owner. In this case, I have faith that if Ernest decides to shut down the Kbin.social instance, they’ll give us fair warning. And if the instance disappears overnight, I’ll have to start over on another instance. The nice thing is that the communities that I participate in might be spread out. So just because this instance goes away, that doesn’t mean that all my content and communities are gone with it. Merely those that were hosted on this particular instance.

I think the better approach would be something akin to multireddits where you could collect posts in similar communities from multiple instances into a single place. I believe magazines already have a feature sort of like that, but I’m not positive. That way, community posts would naturally be spread around to multiple instances and one instance going down wouldn’t be the end of the world.

Nice! Glad to see more options popping up!

But some Democratic lawmakers and advocates aren’t so sure. Reps. Ro Khanna and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have been among the Democrats who have publicly pushed Biden to extend the pause should the Supreme Court strike down the broad debt cancellation.

“Resuming student debt payments in the middle of an affordability crisis is unconscionable. President Biden needs to deliver on his promise to cancel student debt,” Khanna wrote on Twitter.

Ocasio-Cortez previously said in an interview with Politico that it’s “very important the administration has a plan that is an actual response in the event of” the Supreme Court overturning student-debt relief.

Now call me crazy, but isn’t this something that the legislature would be empowered to do as well? I want to see the bills that these reps have put forth to address the issue.

That would be my suggestion as well. There’s a chance that all reddit users will be part of the class, but there’s also a chance that only users who attempted to delete data or request that data be deleted will be part of the class.

Attempt to edit and/or delete a few of your comments at the very least and prepare for the class action lawsuit. It’ll probably take a couple years, but there’s no way that some law firm isn’t already looking into it and gearing up to start the process. There’s a particular law firm that I follow that has gotten some really good settlements from social media companies such as this one against facebook. I would believe that if anyone decides to take on a data privacy issue against a large social media company, it would be them.

Basically what we already know. Reddit is restoring comments that have been deleted by users possibly in violation of data privacy laws.

Louis goes a little farther by sharing the story of one particular user who tried multiple ways to delete their content including manually deleting every single comment one by one. Then to answer Reddit’s response that user data is “anonomized” by disassociating it with the user account when the user deletes their account, the user points out that at least one of their posts has their full name in it, and by restoring that post against the user’s wishes, they’ve violated California’s data privacy laws.

He then goes into his typical cynical rant which I personally find entertaining but I know he rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

When RIF said they were shutting down, I took the icon off my home screen. Haven’t been back since. Reddit was something I did when I was bored. Kind of like reading a newspaper or magazine. I didn’t need it abs still don’t. And now we have communities forming elsewhere like here on Kbin and on Lemmy that I can join, and can have a better experience while doing it.

Yeah, so long Reddit and thanks for all the fish.

Yup. That’s the beauty of the fediverse. Don’t like the way one app manages content? I’ve got good news - there are at least two dozen other apps to choose from.

If you don’t like the way Kbin does things and think it should be more like Lemmy, just go join a Lemmy instance. Neither platform will be perfect or will satisfy every whim of every user.

I think that’s the issue. People really need to remember just how early Kbin is in it’s development. Ernest is working on the main features and keeping the insurance alive (and doing a fantastic job of it). Tutorials usually come much later in the development cycle one the product is ready for the masses.

Kbin got super accelerated adoption because of the reddit drama. It’s missing a lot of polish and even some core features. It is also a different platform from reddit with different goals and design concepts.

People coming here expecting a 1:1 replacement for reddit are frankly in the wrong place. There are plenty of reddit alternatives out there that are much more complete and are much closer to the reddit experience. If people are here, they need to be okay with using a different platform that is in active development and doesn’t have all the kinks worked out yet.

He’s emulating a guy who is running his own company into the ground. They’re both going to be left with empty shells of what they first inherited. I can at least give the slightest benefit of the doubt to spez’s original intentions years ago, but it hardly matters now.

And if course there will be no consequences to either of them that affect them directly. They’ll both still have more money than they know what to do with.

Combined with personalities that were ambitious enough to leave literally everything behind and make a rather perilous trek just for the opportunity to access and potentially exploit those resources.

Who here remembers Bill Lambeer’s Combat Basketball?

change community rules to apply retroactively that in order to maintain freshness and improve visibility of smaller posts, anything over x days old or over x karma will be removed.

reminds me of /(thatothersite)/itsaunixsystem

well, yes and no. It’s an attempt to force the sub open and give the “option” to no longer moderate. They’re perfectly willing to part ways with you as a moderator as long as it gets the sub open. Their view is that everyone is replaceable.

depends on the desires of the majority of the community I would say. If the majority of the community says they want to change the community, then who are we to disagree? I’d vote for the change. Unfortunately for that vote, I haven’t been on Reddit since before the blackout. The only reason I’ll be going back will be to delete some/all of my posts.