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Top tier post. Can’t wait for the experts at awful.systems to come explain. The question by OP is a very good question so I am sure we will get expert explanations from users of the awful.systems instance.

Reinforcement learning makes the model better over time, so why should there be fewer and fewer good results?

If you’re talking about the rate of improvement going down, then yes, of course. That’s bound to happen (unless you have an actual intelligence explosion, but in that case you won’t know what “good results” even mean anyway).

No one feeds random LLM output straight back though. The whole idea of reinforcement learning is you take some ML model output, check if it is good, and push the model in that direction if it is good.

As long as you believe that e.g. it’s easier to verify a mathematical result than to come up with one, then RL should work.

You took those quotes wildly out of context. Of course there is a hard limit on how much information can be extracted from data. Clever processing won’t break that limit. But only in basic cases have we seen proofs that certain statistical inference methods make optimal use of the data. In complicated systems like neural nets it is basically impossible to prove such optimality. In fact the models are almost definitely not using the data optimally. Processing can help. A lot.

Putin’s Russia is a nationalist and imperialist state. The Russian army has committed countless war crimes in Ukraine.

The PRC is an authoritarian state with a deeply corrupted party, extreme capitalist culture, and very little regards for individual privacy or rights. It is also engaged in homogenization campaigns suppressing the social and cultural identities of Uyghur people, constituting an ethnocide.

PieFed is promoted by people claiming they want to take influence away from the tankies who support Russia and the PRC. But from the hardcoded behavior discussed in this very thread we can see the PieFed’s devs and promoters intend to suppress criticisms against the (countries|institutions|capitalists) who they support, even though these entities have committed no less evil than Russia and the PRC.

Does that satisfy you?

We’ll see if I get banned from .ml now (not being snarky. i genuinely am curious to see if they will ban me).

How would you go about changing the seven_things_plus variable via the GUI?

You can’t. You can get around the filtering by other means, but that doesn’t make seven_things_plus any less hardcoded.

Maybe the term hardcoded have some particular negative connotations for you. In that case please explain what that connotation may be.

The correct definition just means data in the code rather than loaded at runtime. It is not necessarily a bad thing (things like unit conversion factors are perfectly reasonable to hardcode). In this case, I’ll let everyone judge for themselves if hardcoding ‘enoughmuskspam’ is acceptable.

Hey. I saw your comment but didn’t get to reply before you deleted it. I think you should restore it. Ignore the tankies bullying you.

I fully stand by my wording that it is “hardcoded”, but it is good that you show the code, so people can judge for themselves.

https://mander.xyz/post/46665744/24986265

The string ‘enoughmuskspam’ is in the code https://mander.xyz/post/46665744/24986265

It is specifically the string ‘enoughmuskspam’ in the code https://mander.xyz/post/46665744/24986265

It is hardcoded. The string ‘enoughmuskspam’ is right here https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b7a9ea0eea3a80f710e0b5b63cf0bbecde60f8bf/app/admin/routes.py#L373

I have noted in other threads and will note again here because people keep attacking me about this: hardcoding does not mean the behavior is not circumventable. It just means the string is in the source file (rather than a config file or database).

Hardcoded means the filter is in the source code (as opposed to being in a config file or database). Whether or not it can be disabled/circumvented is a different matter.

Having features does not make it good software. It remains true that the code quality is abysmal and there ARE hardcoded blocks based on what the dev(s) dislike.

What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can’t be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it’s not) .

I hope I am not spreading any misinformation. If any of my complaints is factually incorrect, please point it out.

That contradicts what @[email protected] told me.

Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.

If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don’t want anything like it.

I just want to make sure people know what they’re getting into before they decide to use PieFed. If you know about the issues and decide to use it, I totally respect that decision.

So there are two purposes for this “bad list”

• for filtering which communities to federate with in the beginning
• to calculate user reputation score

correct?

The federation filtering is blocking IMO. It affects what comms users of the instance can find (via search).

Anyway maybe in Your PR You should make a separately configurable list for each purpose. I don’t see a reason why it should be the same list.

That’s what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

Okay. It’s still unclear to me why piracy was not picked up by default. It’s a very big comm.

Anyhow, good luck on the merge request! Would be great to let the admin decide what to block instead of the weirdly random selection of comms and words on the list now.