A Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday flew into NATO air space and detonated near a Romanian village, Ukrainian news reports said, but official Bucharest said the fact of the strike wasn’t confirmed and that they would check.

Ukrainian social media video recorded in the river port city of Izmail, opposite Plaura, showed an orange flash lighting up the night horizon and a booming blast on the Romanian side of the river. Flames and smoke reaching hundreds of meters into the sky were visible following the explosion. A Russian kamikaze drone strike against Izmail had been in progress at the time.

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        This whole war was 100% avoidable and you think that escalating it would make it end faster… dude…

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          Every war was just as avoidable as this one. Yet we live in a world where not everyone wants to avoid war.

          War is what happens when those who want to avoid it are forced into interaction with those who don’t.

          If those who don’t want war simply choose not to fight, then a state worse than war exists.

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          avoidable how? Putin wants his old territories, like crimea, back. How is his land grab 100% avoidable?

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            It was all about Ukraine joining nato. Had there been a promise that Ukraine would not join nato, this war would not have happened. The people in charge knew this and decided to do seek Ukraine joining nato anyways, why would they do this if they knew it would cause war?

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              Bullshit. Crimea was invaded mere days after the change of power in 2014, far before anyone of note was seriously talking about Ukraine joining NATO. Support for separatists elsewhere soon followed. It was about Russia exerting a “sphere of influence” that it felt entitled to. The Russian leadership can’t seem to get that countries are joining NATO because of Russian imperialism, past and present.

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                Russia took over Crimea due to the overthrow of the Pro russian government with a pro west government, a thing they also found as direct provocation. Why did Russia invade Georgia?

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                  They could have waited or tried to make a deal with the new government. They did neither and immediately invaded without making an attempt at an arrangement.

                  Why did Russia invade Georgia?

                  Are you trying to get me to say NATO? Because that conflict far predates NATO involvement.

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                    Because that conflict far predates NATO involvement.

                    That is not true, in the 2008 Bucarest summit in April they discussed how they wanted Ukraine and Georgia to join nato, and then in August Russia invaded Georgia to stop this and put in a Russia puppet government. Why would Nato indicate they wanted to have Ukraine join Nato when they knew it was a serious provocation? Before this war no one gave a shit about Ukraine, and most americans probably couldnt point to it on the map, why was it so important to have it join nato if it risked a war?

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          Nato entering would basically be an overwhelming force against Russia. It’s going to end real quick after that.

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            Okay so you want a hot war between Russia and NATO and you think that would be less violent?

            Where are you getting your information from?

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              Putin would know fully well that M.A.D. isnt worth it over the russo-ukranian war.

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                Are you aware that he has threatened this multiple times? Who do you think Ukraine is more imporant to Russia (its neighbor) or the US (a country on the other side of the world where a good portion of people couldnt point to it on a map)?

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                  Yeah because only USA is part of NATO (yeah disregard all EU member states of NATO why don’t you) and only on a flat map is it on the other side of the world. It’s literally across the Bering strait.

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                    The US is the main driver of NATO by far. The far reaches of russia are right next to the far reaches of the US, but Ukraine is on the other side of the planet. Why would Russia have less incentive than the US to lose?